If you don't.....no problem, the government will take care of you.....wtf ever get a job or look to one.....
Damn. life is good
Our troubles are over.....
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If you don't.....no problem, the government will take care of you.....wtf ever get a job or look to one.....
Damn. life is good
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Your President will not okay a pipeline project that will produce thousands of jobs. Get your damn head on straight.
Annie
Not So Junior Member
Do you understand there are jobs that the 'long time unemployed will not take?' That isn't unemployment benefits, it's a redistribution of wealth.
Read all of the posts from the tools here, making fun of me over the past year for working a minimum wage job. Some here are just idiots, most are just nasty partisans and would be intellectuals.
Non answer. Kudos for working, but I am not seeing any abundance of jobs going unfilled.
People need jobs and your fucking idiot President is playing politics. The pipeline provides thousands of jobs and he doesn't want to okay it. People know what's going on.
The republican governor of one of the states it will transverse wanted it blocked for enviromental reasons, liar.
apple0154
MEOW
Life is good on unemployment?
The same old, crazy argument whether it's unemployment or welfare or any other social program. If benefits are so good why aren't people with jobs doing all they can to get fired/laid off?
Did you see the 60 Minutes episode last night regarding the destruction of homes in Cleveland? Rather than lower people's mortgages or using the houses for the homeless banks have the homes destroyed. Why would banks lose the entire amount of the home by destroying it instead of getting some price for it? Is the government giving them money? Why would the bank absorb the loss? It shows there's money somewhere if banks prefer to lose the entire amount rather than trying to get some money for them.
People complaining about extending unemployment saying the country is poor while banks deliberately destroy homes. It doesn't get much sicker.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7392096n&tag=contentMain;contentAux
apple0154
MEOW
All help is a redistribution of wealth. Helping the old and ill is a redistribution of wealth. Allowing the poor to have free, legal counsel is a redistribution of wealth. Whenever one collects on an insurance policy there is a redistribution of wealth as they take more than what they contributed through payments.
The only problem with redistribution of wealth is when it's unnecessarily taken. If one is obliged to fight and die for their fellow citizens/country why is it so objectionable to be expected to contribute to the necessary financial welfare of their fellow citizens/country? Is money of more value than life?
Can you defend her against my arguments? Read the whole thread, my replies and hers and let me know.
Annie is the perfect example of a person voting against her own best interests, having been brainwashed by right wing talking points,
and her argument is all the more heinous in that she has hers (a job) and fuck those without.
Dope smoker, insulting me does not refute my argument. Can you prove I am wrong or not?
Annie
Not So Junior Member
Actually it all depends on what considers 'their best interests.' As for me, it's the future, those that are the young today and tomorrow. That isn't just a saying, ya know? We have spent our children's futures and if we don't start taking care of what we're spending and where we spend, we are going to make more problems for them down the line.
I'm not against unemployment, (btw as historically managed never was for redistribution of wealth), but I'm also not against help for those that need it, temporarily. I'm not against those that need it permanently, the impoverished elderly, the sick, and children in need.
I'm not for debtor's prisons or any of the Scrooge-like accusations thrown about willynilly by some idiots here.
One can have empathy for those in circumstances beyond their control, without making the 'solutions' permanent for those capable of taking care of themselves.
The false premise thrown out by one of the biggest fools I've seen on this board, that if one 'takes' unemployment or social security or a school loan or any of the programs that one is forever forbidden to discuss the problems with such programs; ignoring the thousands or tens of thousands they've contributed to the 'systems.' It's not those people that are the hypocrites, it's those that claim empathy and then act superior to those that have a job that they consider 'below them.' Much like the liars in government from both parties.
Oh a fact here, there are plenty of jobs for those younger and of better constitutions than myself-many don't want them, they find them paying too little and without the necessary prestige they believe they are entitled to. My hearing isn't from age, but a fact since birth-in spite of it I managed to earn 2 degrees, one from University of Chicago, before getting hearing aids. I applied for and was accepted into law school. I'm not the least intellectual member on this board. BTW, since then I've also earned two more degrees, one a MS.
My own situation has much more to do with my own choices in the past, the worst one being who I married. So yes, my choices and making them still. I don't really have any regrets and doubt I'd make different ones if given the chance to repeat them.
Bfgrn
New member
As usual, you right wing turds don't know what you're talking about. But that doesn't stop this story from metastasizing like cancer in the right wing 'echo chamber', where mindlessness reigns.
Obama weighs mix of ideas for U.S. jobs plan
Aug 30 (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama, facing sliding approval ratings amid fears the economy could fall back into recession, is crafting a jobs package he will unveil next week.
Here are ideas the White House is reviewing:
INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING
TAX BREAKS FOR BUSINESSES
HELP FOR STRUGGLING HOMEOWNERS
EXTENSIONS OF PAYROLL TAX CUTS AND UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
A payroll tax holiday for workers and extended unemployment benefits were enacted in a bipartisan package in December. Obama called earlier this year for a continuation of both measures through next year. The White House remains committed to the extension but congressional Republicans are lukewarm on the idea, with some saying the White House should focus on measures such as broad tax reform that would have a more lasting impact on the economy.
Macroeconomic Advisers, an economic consulting firm, estimates that extending the payroll tax holiday, emergency unemployment benefits and business expensing provisions through 2012 would boost employment by about 600,000 next year.
http://www.macroadvisers.com/browser/index.html
Let's say, just for giggles, that what you propose is both plausible and practical. What do we do in the mean time?
And we don't have an excess of any jobs, skilled or otherwise. Maybe you missed the part where I said that if every job opening were filled overnight, tomorrow we'd still have 10 million unemployed people.
Bfgrn
New member
There is no sin except stupidity.
Oscar Wilde
Unemployment Compensation
The Social Security Act of 1935 (Public Law 74-271) created the Federal-State Unemployment Compensation (UC) Program. The program has two main objectives: (1) to provide temporary and partial wage replacement to involuntarily unemployed workers who were recently employed; and (2) to help stabilize the economy during recessions.
http://www.policyalmanac.org/social_welfare/archive/unemployment_compensation.shtml
Annie
Not So Junior Member
When would you say that 'temporary' has become 'permanent?' 26 weeks were morphed to this point to 99 weeks, now they want to extend that. It's no longer 'unemployment compensations,' but the dole. One was paid for, this no longer is.