Palin? ...Let's talk about Biden!!!

I have heard the liberals and moderate elites critical of Palin's 'depth' or 'sophistication' on the national stage. Although it is seldom anything of specificity, they just maintain that she is a dunderhead who isn't qualified to be president. But we never do talk about the man who is a chicken bone away from the presidency, Joe Biden.

Here are a list of statements which have to make any objective person wonder about Biden's depth and sophistication...

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-- On July 16, 2009, Vice President Biden gave a blunt summation of the administration's approach to stimulus spending.

"People, when I say that, look at me and say, 'What are you talking about, Joe? You're telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?" he said at a stop in Virginia. "The answer is yes."

-- On July 5, 2009, in an interview with ABC's "This Week," Biden conceded that the White House team "misread how bad the economy was." His confession came as unemployment hit 9.5 percent, despite the administration's insistence that it would hold to 8 percent with the stimulus plan.

-- On April 30, 2009, Biden gave advice on dealing with swine flu that seemed to contradict President Obama's warning not to panic. Speaking on NBC's "Today," Biden, a longtime Amtrak rider who has commuted for decades daily from Delaware to Washington, D.C., said he wouldn't advise family necessarily against going to Mexico, the source of the H1N1 outbreak, but he wouldn't tell them to get into any small area like a subway car, automobile, classroom or airplane.

"I would tell members of my family, and I have, I wouldn't go anywhere in confined places right now," Biden said. "It's not that its going to Mexico, it's that you are in a confined aircraft when one person sneezes, it goes everywhere through the aircraft. That's me."

-- On March 13, 2009, Biden addressed a former Senate colleague by saying, "An hour late, oh give me a f**king break," after he arrived on Amtrak at Union Station in Washington, D.C. The vice president's expletive was caught on a live microphone.

-- During a Feb. 25, 2009, interview on CBS' "Early Show," Biden encouraged viewers to visit a government-run Web site that tracks stimulus spending. When asked for the site's web address, Biden could not remember the site's "number."

"You know, I'm embarrassed. Do you know the Web site number?" he asked an aide standing out of view. "I should have it in front of me and I don't. I'm actually embarrassed."

-- At a Jan. 30, 2009, swearing-in ceremony of senior White House staff, Biden mocked Chief Justice John Roberts for his presidential oath blunder on Inauguration Day.

"Am I doing this again?" Biden said, after Obama asked him to administer the oath. When Biden was told the swearing-in was for senior staff -- and not cabinet members -- the vice president quipped, "My memory is not as good as Justice Roberts," prompting a stern nudge from Obama.

-- On Inauguration Day, Jan. 20 2009, Biden misspoke when he told a cheering crowd of supporters, "Jill and I had the great honor of standing on that stage, looking across at one of the great justices, Justice Stewart." Justice John Paul Stevens -- not Stewart -- swore Biden in as vice president.

-- When criticizing former GOP nominee John McCain in Athens, Ohio, on Oct. 15, 2008, Biden said, "Look, John's last-minute economic plan does nothing to tackle the number-one job facing the middle class, and it happens to be, as Barack says, a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S, jobs."

-- In a Sept. 22, 2008, CBS interview, Biden misspoke when he said Franklin D. Roosevelt was president when the stock market crashed in 1929.

"When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, 'Look, here's what happened," he said. Herbert Hoover -- not Roosevelt -- was president in 1929, and television had not yet been invented in 1929.

-- During a Sept. 12, 2008, speech in Columbia, Mo., Biden called for Missouri State Sen. Chuck Graham, who is wheelchair-bound, to "stand up."

"Oh, God love ya," Biden said, after realizing his mistake. "What am I talking about?"

-- At a Sept. 10, 2008, town hall meeting in Nashua, N.H., Biden said, "Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me."

-- Biden mistakenly referred to Alaska governor Sarah Palin as the "lieutenant governor" of her state during a town hall meeting on Sept. 4, 2008 at George Mason University in Manassas, Va.

"I heard a very, by the way I mean this sincerely, a very strong and a very good political speech from a lieutenant governor of Alaska who I think is going to be very formidable, very formidable not only in the campaign but in the debate," Biden said.

-- Biden said he was running for president -- not vice president -- during a Sept. 1, 2008, roundtable discussion in Scranton, Pa.

"Today is the moment for me as a United States senator running for president to put aside the national politics and focus on what's happening down there," Biden said.

-- Biden referred to John McCain as "George" during his vice presidential acceptance speech on Aug. 27, 2008, at the Democratic National Convention in Denver, Co. "Freudian slip, folks, Freudian slip," he explained.

-- Biden confused army brigades with battalions when speaking about Obama's plan for sending troops to Afghanistan.

"Or should we trust Barack Obama, who more than a year ago called for sending two additional combat brigades to Afghanistan?"

-- During his first campaign rally with Obama as his vice presidential running mate on Aug. 23, 2008, Biden introduced Obama by saying, "A man I'm proud to call my friend. A man who will be the next President of the United States -- Barack America!"

-- On Jan. 31, 2007 -- the day Biden announced his presidential bid -- the Delaware Senator was roundly criticized for calling Obama "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."


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Specifically, I want to hear from those of you who have expressed an unfavorable view of Palin, based on her lack of "depth and sophistication" as to what you think of these comments from Biden.

Just a clarification to the corrections... television was not commercialized in the US 1929, but it HAD been invented by then.
 
Or, explaining to a third grader in a way that he can comprehend.

That is just NOT the job of the VP. Even in 3rd Grader language. The VP only gets a vote when there is a tie, and thats the only responsability they have to the Congress. If the VP was in charge of the Congress what would happen to the basic concept of sepperation of powers.
 
That is just NOT the job of the VP. Even in 3rd Grader language. The VP only gets a vote when there is a tie, and thats the only responsability they have to the Congress. If the VP was in charge of the Congress what would happen to the basic concept of sepperation of powers.
Yet they could get right in there and work on legislation if they wished, they could also preside over all sessions if they wanted, there is nothing wrong with the President of the Senate not giving his powers over to the president pro tempore...

United States

See also: List of the Presidents of the United States Senate and Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution

The Vice President of the United States is designated by the Constitution as the President of the Senate. The vice president holds a casting vote in the Senate (i.e., he or she can only vote in the case of a tie). Vice presidents have cast tie-breaking votes 242 times. The vice president with the most tie breaking votes is John Adams with 29.

While vice presidents used to regularly preside over the Senate, modern vice presidents have done so only rarely—vice presidents usually only preside to swear in new senators, during joint sessions, and when casting a tie-breaking vote. The Senate chooses a president pro tempore to preside in the vice president's absence. Modern presidents pro tempore, too, rarely preside over the Senate. In practice, the junior senators typically preside in order to learn Senate procedure.[7]

The current Vice President of the United States and President of the United States Senate is Joe Biden.

Just because current VPs don't take direct interest in presiding over the Senate doesn't mean that it isn't the job listed for them in the Constitution.
 
Yet they could get right in there and work on legislation if they wished, they could also preside over all sessions if they wanted, there is nothing wrong with the President of the Senate not giving his powers over to the president pro tempore...



Just because current VPs don't take direct interest in presiding over the Senate doesn't mean that it isn't the job listed for them in the Constitution.

Go back to high school civics. They can preside, but have no power beyond that! Our system of government fundamentally prevents a vp from being in charge of the sennate!
 
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Go back to high school civics. They can preside, but have no power beyond that! Our system of government fundamentally prevents a vp from being in charge of the sennate!
She just simplified it for the person she was speaking to, instead of saying "President of the Senate" she said "in charge"...

Not nearly as big of a deal as you attempt to make it here, and less of a big deal or "faux pas" then constantly abasing yourself before other world leaders when you are President.

She described the rest rather accurately, they can "get right in there and help shape legislation" if they want to, nothing charges that they do not. They just cannot vote on it, except in the event of a tie.

I wouldn't have said "in charge" but don't think it is nearly as "horrible" as you clearly do, nor did her answer show a "total lack of understanding" as you hope so desperately it did.
 
That is just NOT the job of the VP. Even in 3rd Grader language. The VP only gets a vote when there is a tie, and thats[sic] the only responsability[sic] they have to the Congress. If the VP was in charge of the Congress what would happen to the basic concept of sepperation[sic] of powers.
The Veep is also the President of the Senate. I'd call that "in charge". Wouldn't you?
 
Let's be clear... Go read the Biden quotes and tell me which one are legitimate "gaffes" and which ones are simply borne of ignorance and incompetency? Most of them are not gaffes at all, he knew exactly what he was saying, he didn't just make a simple mistake. If Sarah Palin had made ANY of these comments, she would have been relentlessly torched by the left, and rightly so. As it stands, the left is relegated to twisting her words, inferring meaning that wasn't there, and claiming she said things she never said. Then they use that to claim she is too incompetent to ever be president... while Biden is a chicken bone away from the Oval Office! It's truly amazing!
 
The Veep is also the President of the Senate. I'd call that "in charge". Wouldn't you?

Generally speaking, to "preside over" is also said to be "in charge." Palin didn't make a gaffe, she wasn't incorrect. This is an example of the left inferring meaning to what she said, which was never intended, and wasn't stated. Contrast this with Biden, who doesn't have a clue where the Constitution delegates power to the VP.
 
Generally speaking, to "preside over" is also said to be "in charge." Palin didn't make a gaffe, she wasn't incorrect. This is an example of the left inferring meaning to what she said, which was never intended, and wasn't stated. Contrast this with Biden, who doesn't have a clue where the Constitution delegates power to the VP.
You mean Jarod was wrong? Oh wait, he's nearly always wrong. :palm:
 
How wrong was she again, isn't the gov now telling woman to wait 10yrs till 50 to get cancer screened. WTF no woman below 50 die from it.

Can you say rationing Health Care???
 
Generally speaking, to "preside over" is also said to be "in charge." Palin didn't make a gaffe, she wasn't incorrect. This is an example of the left inferring meaning to what she said, which was never intended, and wasn't stated. Contrast this with Biden, who doesn't have a clue where the Constitution delegates power to the VP.

Palin handed Biden his ass during their debate. :cool:
 
How wrong was she again, isn't the gov now telling woman to wait 10yrs till 50 to get cancer screened. WTF no woman below 50 die from it.

Can you say rationing Health Care???

If you're talking about Palin....no, I don't think she is the one telling women that.
 
"[T]hey're in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom." --Sarah Palin, getting the vice president's constitutional role wrong after being asked by a third grader what the vice president does, interview with NBC affiliate KUSA in Colorado, Oct. 21, 2008

Lack of understanding of the position of the VP.

OK, I had to go back and read the thread to see about this "in charge" comment. There is nothing wrong or inappropriate about the comment...she was simplifying it down for a third grader. Geez Louise folks.....no biggee here.
 
Since you lefties like to live in a fantasy world, let's put on our imagination caps and pretend Sarah Palin had made the following quotes to Katie Couric...

"We have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt!"

[What? Did she not have remedial math classes in school? This woman is obviously incompetent on how the economy works!]

"If you are in a confined aircraft when one person sneezes, it goes everywhere through the aircraft."

[What? Doesn't the dingbat know that all commercial airliners filter their air? What an idiot!]

"Do you know the Web site number?"

[What? Palin thinks web sites have numbers? She is totally clueless!]

"When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television..."

[OMG... LMFAO... FDR wasn't even president when the market crashed, and he sure as hell didn't go on TV, since no one had one yet! What a moron that Palin is!]

"The first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy."


[So Palin thinks Obama is "clean" as opposed to the "dirty" African-Americans she has seen in the past? Wow, what a racist comment!]
 
LOL, I wonder how many people who stood in line for Billy boy Clinton's book wished after the blowjob blowup, they hadn't...:cof1:
 
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