PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY SANDWICH IS RACIST, SAYS PORTLAND SCHOOL OFFICIAL

cawacko said:
Improving education for those in urban areas is a passion of mine. I read stories like this and think it's crap. If others disagree then that's their prerogative. Soc, who I believe voted for Obama in '08 is the one who posted the article so I don't know if that qualifies him as an angry conservative or not.
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Our public school system has been based on the WASP model from the beginning. Whites were the majority and any minority group was expected to learn what white men deemed to be the correct curriculum, no questions asked. Now the country's becoming more multicultural, i.e. growing number of Hispanics and Asians. What's wrong with incorporating their customs etc. into school curriculums and giving kids a broader picture of the world?
 
christiefan915 said:
Our public school system has been based on the WASP model from the beginning. Whites were the majority and any minority group was expected to learn what white men deemed to be the correct curriculum, no questions asked. Now the country's becoming more multicultural, i.e. growing number of Hispanics and Asians. What's wrong with incorporating their customs etc. into school curriculums and giving kids a broader picture of the world?
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Klan no likey
 
Big Money said:
They seem upset to you?

I'd say Zappy is the only angry white guy in this thread.
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Really? These seem a bit irritable to me: "This is FUCKING ridiculous." "Are you purposely obtuse?" "Still stupid." "Poet believes this shit..."

Along with the fact that the article itself is over 14 months old.
 
christiefan915 said:
Our public school system has been based on the WASP model from the beginning. Whites were the majority and any minority group was expected to learn what white men deemed to be the correct curriculum, no questions asked. Now the country's becoming more multicultural, i.e. growing number of Hispanics and Asians. What's wrong with incorporating their customs etc. into school curriculums and giving kids a broader picture of the world?
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PB&J really? That's white privilege? Still shaking my head.
 
cawacko said:
PB&J really? That's white privilege? Still shaking my head.
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I just don't see how this statement could be considered racist.

“Another way would be to say: ‘Americans eat peanut butter and jelly, do you have anything like that?’ Let them tell you. Maybe they eat torta. Or pita.”
 
christiefan915 said:
I just don't see how this statement could be considered racist.

“Another way would be to say: ‘Americans eat peanut butter and jelly, do you have anything like that?’ Let them tell you. Maybe they eat torta. Or pita.”
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The 'white privilege' b.s. like others in America don't eat or aren't familiar with PB&J. If the reference was to some high end food at Whole Foods that only those with means would eat or be familiar with then I can get it. But PB&J is the most basic and relatively cheapest food one can get. That's not privilege let alone white privilege. It's freaking stupid.
 
christiefan915 said:
Our public school system has been based on the WASP model from the beginning. Whites were the majority and any minority group was expected to learn what white men deemed to be the correct curriculum, no questions asked. Now the country's becoming more multicultural, i.e. growing number of Hispanics and Asians. What's wrong with incorporating their customs etc. into school curriculums and giving kids a broader picture of the world?
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Nothing wrong with that idea at all.

UNLESS you're just another angry Rightie with a persecution complex and an axe to grind.
 
christiefan915 said:
I just don't see how this statement could be considered racist.

“Another way would be to say: ‘Americans eat peanut butter and jelly, do you have anything like that?’ Let them tell you. Maybe they eat torta. Or pita.”
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The only people who find that statement to be racist are angry old white men with a persecution complex.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Well I read the article, but I just don't see where anyone actually SAID a PBJ sandwich is racist.

Perhaps someone could highlight that particular statement.
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Sounds to me more like trying to be more cosmopolitan and with less nationalism and less Amerocentrism than "racism!"
 
cawacko said:
The 'white privilege' b.s. like others in America don't eat or aren't familiar with PB&J. If the reference was to some high end food at Whole Foods that only those with means would eat or be familiar with then I can get it. But PB&J is the most basic and relatively cheapest food one can get. That's not privilege let alone white privilege. It's freaking stupid.
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Why is it so difficult for you to grasp the fact that people from different backgrounds, cultures and ethnicities eat widely varied diets.

What is a common dietary staple for one group may have never been heard of by others.

The point the teacher was making was that even something as ubiquitous as the PBJ can be used to highlight the differences between us here in the USA.

Of course angry white men used it instead as another opportunity to whine about their rapidly waning power over others.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Why is it so difficult for you to grasp the fact that people from different backgrounds, cultures and ethnicities eat widely varied diets.

What is a common dietary staple for one group may have never been heard of by others.

The point the teacher was making was that even something as ubiquitous as the PBJ can be used to highlight the differences between us here in the USA.

Of course angry white men used it instead as another opportunity to whine about their rapidly waning power over others.
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I think he grasps that fact. Can you grasp that talking about a food could not possibly insensitive in any real way?
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Why is it so difficult for you to grasp the fact that people from different backgrounds, cultures and ethnicities eat widely varied diets.

What is a common dietary staple for one group may have never been heard of by others.

The point the teacher was making was that even something as ubiquitous as the PBJ can be used to highlight the differences between us here in the USA.

Of course angry white men used it instead as another opportunity to whine about their rapidly waning power over others.
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I am far from a world traveler and there are many many people who have traveled far more than I have but I have had a chance to go to Europe, China, Australia and South America so I have gotten to see other cultures and I am aware not everyone around the world eats the same food as we do in America.

What I'm stating has nothing to do with being an angry white man it has to do with what I believe to be the most effective methods for educating our youth. And to me it is completely inefficient and non-effective to spend time training our teachers on issues of food.

If I see some study that shows teachers speaking about different cultural food can greatly raise educational levels of our youth then maybe I would see this issue in a different way. But I don't see any research pointing to that. I don't agree with the program. You are obviously free to feel differently.
 
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