Pelosi ‘going for the jugular

Matt Dillon said:
Pelosi just want to insert BS pork into bills. That crap needs to stop.
Holding America hostage over her personal wants.
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Exactamundo.
Perfectly brilliant to put payroll taxes etc on hiatus, thats a direct boon to citizens zero pork.
Nan always seems to think she holds the upper hand but she never does.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Welfare is bullshit. Next! I don't need a fucking thing, but some people might. Not corporations, people.
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Then why does the GOP always hand out corporate welfare? Why did Justice Roberts, a conservative justice, declare that corporations are now people with the same rights as you and me? Why does the GOP cry when a struggling single parent gets assistance but says nothing when corporate America receives tax-free financial "gifts" on behalf of the American taxpayer?
 
Michael_Panetta said:
Well, it's necessary for many people. Your party is definitely a minority in the modern developed world.
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the modern developed world is a mentally deranged hellscape of destructive illuminati bullshit.

fostering dependency is part of the m.o. but we need a slow withdrawal. im not for putting people in streets.

testing recipients for drugs should be common practice. the criminal cabal won't allow it because they're in with the cartels.
 
The Dems negotiated and the Repubs did not. Pelosi offered to take a trillion out of the bill, if the reds added a trillion. They reds did not even respond. Then Trump did an illegal EO.
 
Michael_Panetta said:
Well, it's necessary for many people. Your party is definitely a minority in the modern developed world.
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Irrelevant appeal to popularity. Aside from that, why is federal welfare necessary to anyone? States could provide this function. There is ZERO justification constitutionally for the federal government to be providing this.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Irrelevant appeal to popularity. Aside from that, why is federal welfare necessary to anyone? States could provide this function. There is ZERO justification constitutionally for the federal government to be providing this.
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Since when do Trumpers care about the Constitution? Anyway, there is a reason why the idea of treating the public with dignity is "popular." There are people who simply can't financially provide for themselves or for their families. Welfare is necessary and no amount of whining will stop good people from protecting these systems.
 
Michael_Panetta said:
Since when do Trumpers care about the Constitution? Anyway, there is a reason why the idea of treating the public with dignity is "popular." There are people who simply can't financially provide for themselves or for their families. Welfare is necessary and no amount of whining will stop good people from protecting these systems.
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or free speech or freedom of movement. you're on the side of evil.
 
Michael_Panetta said:
Since when do Trumpers care about the Constitution? Anyway, there is a reason why the idea of treating the public with dignity is "popular." There are people who simply can't financially provide for themselves or for their families. Welfare is necessary and no amount of whining will stop good people from protecting these systems.
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Who said I was a "Trumper?" There are also people who won't financially provide for themselves or their families. Welfare is a late 19th century construct that never existed prior to that.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Who said I was a "Trumper?" There are also people who won't financially provide for themselves or their families. Welfare is a late 19th century construct that never existed prior to that.
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Actually, Wikipedia has a large article on the history of welfare. The Roman Empire and the Chinese had welfare programs. So did the Islamic world. The Catholic Church in the Middle Ages was also the government in Europe and ran welfare programs.

I accuse you of being a Trumper because your many posts support him.
 
Michael_Panetta said:
Actually, Wikipedia has a large article on the history of welfare. The Roman Empire and the Chinese had welfare programs. So did the Islamic world. The Catholic Church in the Middle Ages was also the government in Europe and ran welfare programs.

I accuse you of being a Trumper because your many posts support him.
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Support for Trump in something or another does not make one a "Trumper." That makes someone a rational person versus a TDS maniac who thinks Trump is the Devil incarnate and can do nothing right whatsoever.
 
Michael_Panetta said:
I was being facetious, but not by much. That's what's so scary about it. Your party still wants to ban gay marriage, for chrissakes. It's 2020 and your party derives it's platform from nonsensical religious belief systems.
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wrong. we're the last hope for human freedom, ya chicom sympathizer.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Support for Trump in something or another does not make one a "Trumper." That makes someone a rational person versus a TDS maniac who thinks Trump is the Devil incarnate and can do nothing right whatsoever.
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It does make you a Trumper. Hillary is one of the most qualified candidates in US history to run for POTUS, and instead you support a buffoon with the emotional handicaps and intellectual capacity of a stunted child.
 
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