Pelosi Introduces Horrible $3 Trillion Relief Bill

Now what? We will be Brazil in 3 years if the people do not reject this BS and rise up.

What are you talking about "rise up?" Poor schmuck on the street is worried about paying his mortgage and you expect them to focus on "rising up?"

Everyone knows the US is a plutocracy, even Ike recognized the concept decades ago, but Americans aren't going to "rise up" to suddenly confront the reality, especially when you are taking about it in abstractions
 
Really? Donnie keeps asking for relief bills? He is happy to sign them!

3 more years of him and we're Mother Russia!

Neither party is looking out for the average American. If they all died now, we would not be missing any actual leadership, representation or empathy.
 
Congressional Progressive Caucus Ideology
The CPC advocates "universal access to affordable, high quality healthcare" (universal healthcare or single-payer healthcare), fair trade agreements, living wage laws, the right of all workers to organize into labor unions and engage in collective bargaining, the abolition of the USA PATRIOT Act, the legalization of same-sex marriage, U.S. participation in international treaties such as the climate change related Kyoto Accords, responsible reductions in profligate military expenditure, strict campaign finance reform laws, a crackdown on corporate welfare and influence, an increase in income tax rates on upper-middle and upper class households, tax cuts for the poor and an increase in welfare spending by the federal government.[11]

Vote out any dem not on the progressive bandwagon.......

I guarantee...most white people don't want to vote progressive. It's why we have Biden as a nominee......

Blaming both sides is disingenious.......put the Blame where it belongs....... AMERICAN WHITE PEOPLE....who have been brainwashed into thinking "socialism" is bad their entire existence.

American Whites want to stay in the middle so they can cater to the racist right and not lose their privilege.


Both parties are not the same.
 
Hello Cinnabar,

Neither party is looking out for the average American. If they all died now, we would not be missing any actual leadership, representation or empathy.

No, that's wrong, Cinnabar. Partisan Americans are fighting for control of the whole country, not part of it. Neither side is satisfied with controlling only part of the country. They want the whole thing.

This fantasy is illogical, anyway:

If all the registered Republicans and Democrats died in a magical instant of political fantasy, the USA would be left with only 40% of the population, which would immediately send the country into a depression. There is no way 40% of current Americans can keep everything going that's going on right now.

The problem is almost nobody has a taste for breaking up the country. We are a big powerful country. We LIKE being Americans. We don't want to be Red Americans or Blue Americans or Not-Red-Or-Blue-Americans. Despite all our differences and and all our political polarization, extremely few Americans want to break up the country and not be a big powerful country, but several less-powerful countries. OK? It's a pipe dream, never gonna happen.

It makes a whole lot more sense to give up on that and forget all about it. Not gonna happen.

There are plenty of us who identify with neither party. But about 2/3 of America has picked a party. Parties are how people with common views get the power to enact their values. It only makes sense if you want at least some of what you believe in to actually happen, that you have to pick a side at some point before the election, or else you are essentially choosing to have no say in which way the country goes.

We all face this question.

How we answer it depends on how realistic we are being.
 
Hello Geeko Sportivo,

And so you recommend.........

Your solution is...........

Cinnabar would like nothing less than a peaceful break-up of the USA into a right wing USA and a left wing USA.

This would create two smaller countries, and there would be no more big powerful country known as the USA.

The proposal is nothing less than THE END of the USA.

I say we might be polarized, but we ain't THAT polarized.
 
Hello Geeko Sportivo,



Cinnabar would like nothing less than a peaceful break-up of the USA into a right wing USA and a left wing USA.

This would create two smaller countries, and there would be no more big powerful country known as the USA.

The proposal is nothing less than THE END of the USA.

I say we might be polarized, but we ain't THAT polarized.

I like Cinnabar! I like Bernie! Just didn't see the party or the nation moving in that direction!
 
Poor schmuck on the street is worried about paying his mortgage and you expect them to focus on "rising up?"

Poor schmuck on the street is worried about paying his mortgage and car payment etc etc etc...keep that in mind with all this stay at home bossiness not allowed to open bull shit
 
Poor schmuck on the street is worried about paying his mortgage and car payment etc etc etc...keep that in mind with all this stay at home bossiness not allowed to open bull shit

Yeah they have more important things to focus on. No need to upset the system further.
 
Hello Cinnabar,



No, that's wrong, Cinnabar. Partisan Americans are fighting for control of the whole country, not part of it. Neither side is satisfied with controlling only part of the country. They want the whole thing.

This fantasy is illogical, anyway:

If all the registered Republicans and Democrats died in a magical instant of political fantasy, the USA would be left with only 40% of the population, which would immediately send the country into a depression. There is no way 40% of current Americans can keep everything going that's going on right now.

The problem is almost nobody has a taste for breaking up the country. We are a big powerful country. We LIKE being Americans. We don't want to be Red Americans or Blue Americans or Not-Red-Or-Blue-Americans. Despite all our differences and and all our political polarization, extremely few Americans want to break up the country and not be a big powerful country, but several less-powerful countries. OK? It's a pipe dream, never gonna happen.

It makes a whole lot more sense to give up on that and forget all about it. Not gonna happen.

There are plenty of us who identify with neither party. But about 2/3 of America has picked a party. Parties are how people with common views get the power to enact their values. It only makes sense if you want at least some of what you believe in to actually happen, that you have to pick a side at some point before the election, or else you are essentially choosing to have no say in which way the country goes.

We all face this question.

How we answer it depends on how realistic we are being.

It could not be more obvious and evident that the average American is just grist for the mill off the elites.

Pelosi even shut a reporter down for exposing her insider trading. None of them are worth the powder to blow them to hell.
 
This bill is horrific.

The parties have failed us. We need to use this crisis to re-set. No need for crazy action - we have our votes. Let's use 'em.
 
Hello Cinnabar,



No, that's wrong, Cinnabar. Partisan Americans are fighting for control of the whole country, not part of it. Neither side is satisfied with controlling only part of the country. They want the whole thing.

This fantasy is illogical, anyway:

If all the registered Republicans and Democrats died in a magical instant of political fantasy, the USA would be left with only 40% of the population, which would immediately send the country into a depression. There is no way 40% of current Americans can keep everything going that's going on right now.

The problem is almost nobody has a taste for breaking up the country. We are a big powerful country. We LIKE being Americans. We don't want to be Red Americans or Blue Americans or Not-Red-Or-Blue-Americans. Despite all our differences and and all our political polarization, extremely few Americans want to break up the country and not be a big powerful country, but several less-powerful countries. OK? It's a pipe dream, never gonna happen.

It makes a whole lot more sense to give up on that and forget all about it. Not gonna happen.

There are plenty of us who identify with neither party. But about 2/3 of America has picked a party. Parties are how people with common views get the power to enact their values. It only makes sense if you want at least some of what you believe in to actually happen, that you have to pick a side at some point before the election, or else you are essentially choosing to have no say in which way the country goes.

We all face this question.

How we answer it depends on how realistic we are being.

Blacks and other minorities want to break up the country. We are the victims of racist white americans who like shit the way it is.

If you're not for progressives then you are for the racist right. There's no middle ground for compromising with racism.
 
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