Pence Won The Debate!

Yes, which is why she was one of the first to drop out of the DNC race. Even the leftTards hated her guts.

It really is a gift that Dementia Joe picked the WORST candidate to be his running mate.

Its okay. The media has done such a good job hiding her, most don't even know she is Biden's running mate.

Remember Palin? She was on front page news everyday in 2008.
 
Can't help but be impressed by the coincidence that every Trump supporter at this forum thinks Pence won and every Biden supporter thinks Harris one.

Are you surprised that Pence dodged multiple questions vs. Harris doing it once and yet the trumpists think that Harris' refusal to answer they way trumpists wanted was a "kill shot" for trump/pence?

I'm voting for Biden/Harris but I think Pence won last night just as a technical debater. Harris was obviously instructed not to be too pugilistic. I'm certain, however that the debate didn't change anyone's mind in backing either candidate.
 
She should have offered to blow Pence. It has always worked for her in the past. :dunno:

Not unless "Mother" is in the room to supervise, my friend :)

Meanwhile let's get this election over so trump can go back to sticking his unprotected, tiny mushroom into porn stars and playmates (as soon as his prison sentences are done).
 
Remember Palin? She was on front page news everyday in 2008.

Palin was on the front page every day in 2008 for being so stupid, and incompetent. Harris is very competent.

Harris won the debate, which is why trump will have no more debates. It is time for you to deal with the facts.
 
Palin was on the front page every day in 2008 for being so stupid, and incompetent. Harris is very competent.

Harris won the debate, which is why trump will have no more debates. It is time for you to deal with the facts.
Pence won the debate. The left has control of the Press . Its not surprising they take every opportunity to spin Palin as dumb. Likewise they take every opportunity to present Harris as an Einstein. When polled 4 times as many journalist said they were Democrats than Republican.
 
Not unless "Mother" is in the room to supervise, my friend :)

Meanwhile let's get this election over so trump can go back to sticking his unprotected, tiny mushroom into porn stars and playmates (as soon as his prison sentences are done).
Harris's mother does not need to supervise Harris has plenty experience using carnal sex to gain a political advantage. You are going to have to wait at least 4 more years. My friend

Have you ever been salmon fishing or sturgeon fishing? I caught a 69" sturgeon and hooked a 8+ foot one but the tackle was to light to land him. (The fish jumped out of the water and the guide estimated its length) :whoa: We were on the Columbia river.
 
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Pence won the debate. The left has control of the Press . Its not surprising they take every opportunity to spin Palin as dumb. Likewise they take every opportunity to present Harris as an Einstein. When polled 4 times as many journalist said they were Democrats than Republican.

The debates networks had neutral people watching and they were polled. Pence did not win the debate. Nor does national polling indicate that.
 
Actually that pink eye and fly was the quality of Pence at debating a bunch of lies, projections, ignorance and to the point of recklessly making incriminating statements against the lawlessly hacked in tRump insurgency and himself. Pence won at having the metaphorical idea of a fly being attracted to Pence bull sh!t. For someone to support this fake VP and disgusting creep Pence is to support being fly attractive turd on humanity. Deal with it as a intellectual fidget compared to Senator and former State Attorney General Kamala Harris, Pence was equivalent to a fool sitting on a stool wearing a dunce cap at being completely clueless.
 
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Palin was on the front page every day in 2008 for being so stupid, and incompetent. Harris is very competent.

Harris won the debate, which is why trump will have no more debates. It is time for you to deal with the facts.

:laugh::rofl::rofl2:
 
Yeah. There was a town here in Oregon that was bragging about how they had turned away "Antifa" (a non-existent entity created by right wing liars). As the issue turned out it was 300 armed punks facing down 50 unarmed demonstrators. Take a lot of balls for armed terrorists to face down unarmed protesters.



So, you have officers appointed by the State, train on a regular basis, and you are under 45 years of age.

I'd say you're full of shit.

Nope. We elect them, no socialism here. we train, kind of an irregular basis (but generally weekly), except for the scheduled leagues. Again, nope. many of us are older than that. Retired veterans, business owners, a few cops. Don't think for a minute our abilities have diminished.
 
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Kamala Harris forgot who she was debating


Perhaps Senator Kamala Harris would have performed better last night if she had remembered who she was debating. It was not — as she hoped it would be when she was a candidate in the Democratic primaries — President Donald Trump. Instead, it was a candidate with a radically different demeanour.

Vice President Mike Pence has his fair share of political enemies, as well as staunchly conservative viewpoints that put him at odds with plenty in Congress — and the country. But, privately, people like him. He’s thought to be pleasant, respectful and decent — even his Democrat counterparts say so. In this sense, Pence and Joe Biden are cut from the same cloth: not politically, not philosophically, but simply liked by colleagues on the left and the right. When former President Obama struggled, multiple times, to negotiate debt ceiling deals during his tenure, he’d send in Biden to negotiate — a rare Republican whisperer during increasingly tense times.

If Harris had thought of her sparring partner as a Biden figure rather than a Trump, her tactics might have changed for the better. The first time she asserted her voice over Pence (‘Mr Vice President, I’m speaking’) felt strong, perhaps a stand-out moment in the debate. It reminded the audience at home that she showed up to speak and, unlike the debate before, was not going to be shouted over. But last night’s debate was nothing like the presidential showdown the week before. Pence didn’t shout. No one — not Pence nor the moderator — was seemingly trying to stop her contributions.

And very quickly, Harris’s attempt to paint Pence as patriarchal or belittling started to fall flat. In stark contrast to the President’s treatment of Biden, Pence was actually listening to the Senator, putting questions straight to her that picked up on her own talking points and challenged them. His interjections were often framed as questions, encouraging a response (which often didn’t come). Pence’s points of order on the economy teased out dramatic differences in how the two parties would handle the economic recovery from Covid. His question to Harris about whether Biden was ‘only going to repeal part of the Trump tax cuts’ is something viewers at home, struggling with their finances, would have undoubtedly wanted to hear.

What voters were forced to endure last week between Trump and Biden was, in a sense, deeply unfair: they deserved the opportunity to hear vision and detail from the contenders to lead their country — and Trump, primarily, denied them that. But the opposite of Trump’s bad behaviour is not zero engagement with the opposition: it is respectful interaction and challenge. If you’re on that debate stage, in the privileged position of potentially serving the country at the highest level, robust debate should not just be expected, but actively sought out. After Harris first asserted herself, she could have started to exchange (polite) fire for fire, challenging the Vice President’s spin in a pointed and direct way. Instead, her repeated rejection of conversation made her look, by the end, underprepared and unwilling to give direct answers.

The presidential candidates each needed something unique from their VP pick last night. Trump needed Pence to return some fragment of stability and respect to the debates while Biden needed Harris to get behind his more moderate proposals, in contrast to what she advocated in the primaries. On these counts, both speakers rose to the occasion and did their jobs well. Their performances are also unlikely to have any real impact on the trajectory of the race. But Harris provided a lesson for the party at large on what happens when you expect every Republican to act like Donald Trump: more often than not, your tactics will be badly

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/kamala-harris-forgot-who-she-was-debating
 
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Kamala Harris forgot who she was debating


Perhaps Senator Kamala Harris would have performed better last night if she had remembered who she was debating. It was not — as she hoped it would be when she was a candidate in the Democratic primaries — President Donald Trump. Instead, it was a candidate with a radically different demeanour.
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A version of "Everything is Trumps fault". These people forget or lie about how these so-called debates have been actually excuses to give soundbits of stump speeches as you insult the other people on stage for a very long time, and that they have been generally low quality for a long time, and that just about everyone has been fine with that for a long time.
 
Harris's mother does not need to supervise Harris has plenty experience using carnal sex to gain a political advantage. You are going to have to wait at least 4 more years. My friend

Have you ever been salmon fishing or sturgeon fishing? I caught a 69" sturgeon and hooked a 8+ foot one but the tackle was to light to land him. (The fish jumped out of the water and the guide estimated its length) :whoa: We were on the Columbia river.

I caught my first king and silver salmon on a fishing trip to Neah Bay, up in the NW corner of WA on the Straight of Juan de Fuca, the channel that empties out into the Pacific between the U.S. and Canada. Great times!

Done lots of trout fishing - lots of stocked lakes in WA.

Haven't fished in years tho. Tennis, golf and lifting are my sports now.
 
I caught my first king and silver salmon on a fishing trip to Neah Bay, up in the NW corner of WA on the Straight of Juan de Fuca, the channel that empties out into the Pacific between the U.S. and Canada. Great times!

Done lots of trout fishing - lots of stocked lakes in WA.

Haven't fished in years tho. Tennis, golf and lifting are my sports now.
Sounds fun.:cool:

I caught a 42 lb King on a trip to the Kenai in Alaska my son caught a 39 lb King. You should try a sturgeon trip out of Astoria it was one of my favorite trips. Life is too short to not go fishing.


Did you see the USA Today poll on who won the VP debate. Pence won 64% to 36%

 
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