Pentagon orders up to 3,000 troops and Stryker combat vehicles to border

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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has ordered an additional 2,500 to 3,000 active-duty troops to the southern U.S. border, including soldiers from a motorized brigade equipped with 20-ton armored Stryker combat vehicles.
Officials with U.S. Northern Command, which oversees military operations in the United States, and Pentagon spokesmen John Ullyot and Sean Parnell did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The deployment had been in planning since the Trump administration took office. Hegseth said during a trip to the border in February that all options are on the table to support President Donald Trump’s efforts to stop illegal immigration and overland drug smuggling.

The orders are part of a broader, politically fraught military mission that the Trump administration initiated to bolster efforts by the Department of Homeland Security to stop invaders and drug smugglers from crossing into the United States over our land border with Mexico.

Several thousand U.S. troops are already involved, primarily assisting U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) in the detection and apprehension of people seeking to enter the United States illegally.

Stryker vehicles — a lightly armored attack vehicle carrying up to 11 soldiers and typically equipped with a machine gun or grenade launcher — have been used in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan. More recently, the Biden administration provided Stryker vehicles to Ukrainian forces.





@WaPo
 
What exactly would the use of Strykers against asylum seekers? They are very expensive to run, and because of their weight, not the best all terrain vehicles. They are very good all terrain vehicles for their weight, but if you do not need that armor, then they are terrible.

So what is the need for heavy armor?
 
What exactly would the use of Strykers against asylum seekers? They are very expensive to run, and because of their weight, not the best all terrain vehicles. They are very good all terrain vehicles for their weight, but if you do not need that armor, then they are terrible.

So what is the need for heavy armor?
They are for use against drug gangs, dummy.

""The deployment had been in planning since the Trump administration took office. Hegseth said during a trip to the border in February that all options are on the table to support President Donald Trump’s efforts to stop illegal immigration and overland drug smuggling."

"The orders are part of a broader, politically fraught military mission that the Trump administration initiated to bolster efforts by the Department of Homeland Security to stop invaders and drug smugglers from crossing into the United States over our land border with Mexico."

The Strykers won't be used against asylum seekers.

Good grief, Walter.

Try not to suck, Walter.
 
They are for use against drug gangs, dummy.
Can you give us some examples where drug gangs used heavy armor in the USA?

Drug gangs mostly send drugs in cargo containers. These days they are mostly going through our water ports. How is a wheeled tank going to do anything about this?

""The deployment had been in planning since the Trump administration took office. Hegseth said during a trip to the border in February that all options are on the table to support President Donald Trump’s efforts to stop illegal immigration and overland drug smuggling."

"The orders are part of a broader, politically fraught military mission that the Trump administration initiated to bolster efforts by the Department of Homeland Security to stop invaders and drug smugglers from crossing into the United States over our land border with Mexico."

The Strykers won't be used against asylum seekers.
Just as a reminder, the trump administration calls asylum seekers "illegal immigrants", and "invaders." If you will notice, the first purpose that the trump administration has for these wheeled tanks is the asylum seekers, under the names they call them.

Given that these people are looking to surrender to border agents, and apply for asylum, what is the purpose of the expensive Strykers?

With the drugs, the truck drivers might not even know they are carrying drugs. Even if they do know they are surrendering to entry port authorities to cross the border. What would the purpose of Strykers be there?

Or even if we have people running over the borders, which is rarer these days, wouldn't it be better to have quicker vehicles without the heavy, expensive armor?

Can you come up with a use for the Strykers?
 
Can you give us some examples where drug gangs used heavy armor in the USA?

Drug gangs mostly send drugs in cargo containers. These days they are mostly going through our water ports. How is a wheeled tank going to do anything about this?


Just as a reminder, the trump administration calls asylum seekers "illegal immigrants", and "invaders." If you will notice, the first purpose that the trump administration has for these wheeled tanks is the asylum seekers, under the names they call them.

Given that these people are looking to surrender to border agents, and apply for asylum, what is the purpose of the expensive Strykers?

With the drugs, the truck drivers might not even know they are carrying drugs. Even if they do know they are surrendering to entry port authorities to cross the border. What would the purpose of Strykers be there?

Or even if we have people running over the borders, which is rarer these days, wouldn't it be better to have quicker vehicles without the heavy, expensive armor?

Can you come up with a use for the Strykers?
Don't misquote me, Walter:

I did not say that drug gangs used heavy armor in the USA.

The US is prepared to do so.

Asylum seekers remain in Mexico now, thanks to President Trump.
 
I did not say that drug gangs used heavy armor in the USA.
So what is the point of the USA using something meant to fight heavy armor?

The US is prepared to do so.
For what use scenario? Sorry to be a broken record on this, but you do not seem to be able to answer what they would be used for.

OK, picture there is a truck that might have illegal drugs somewhere in it. Would the Stryker use its TOW missiles to destroy that truck at a border crossing?

Or, picture an asylum seeker(or invader as you call them) who is trying to apply for asylum. You do not believe he deserves asylum, so would you run him over with a Stryker?

Or even, someone trying to cross the border completely illegally. That is rarer these days, but it is very conceivable. Wouldn't you want a lighter, quicker vehicle without the heavy armor to chase them down?

You are talking about putting very expensive heavy armor into a situation, so you need a purpose for that heavy armor. The armor needs to be shielding from something. What is attacking the heavy armor?

What is the use scenario?
 
Can you give us some examples where drug gangs used heavy armor in the USA?

Drug gangs mostly send drugs in cargo containers. These days they are mostly going through our water ports. How is a wheeled tank going to do anything about this?


Just as a reminder, the trump administration calls asylum seekers "illegal immigrants", and "invaders." If you will notice, the first purpose that the trump administration has for these wheeled tanks is the asylum seekers, under the names they call them.

Given that these people are looking to surrender to border agents, and apply for asylum, what is the purpose of the expensive Strykers?

With the drugs, the truck drivers might not even know they are carrying drugs. Even if they do know they are surrendering to entry port authorities to cross the border. What would the purpose of Strykers be there?

Or even if we have people running over the borders, which is rarer these days, wouldn't it be better to have quicker vehicles without the heavy, expensive armor?

Can you come up with a use for the Strykers?
you're an idiot.
 
Can you come up with a use scenario for Strykers on our borders? What is the use for heavy armor? What threat are they countering?

Or is trump just wasting a lot of money to try to look cool?

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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has ordered an additional 2,500 to 3,000 active-duty troops to the southern U.S. border, including soldiers from a motorized brigade equipped with 20-ton armored Stryker combat vehicles.
Officials with U.S. Northern Command, which oversees military operations in the United States, and Pentagon spokesmen John Ullyot and Sean Parnell did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The deployment had been in planning since the Trump administration took office. Hegseth said during a trip to the border in February that all options are on the table to support President Donald Trump’s efforts to stop illegal immigration and overland drug smuggling.

The orders are part of a broader, politically fraught military mission that the Trump administration initiated to bolster efforts by the Department of Homeland Security to stop invaders and drug smugglers from crossing into the United States over our land border with Mexico.

Several thousand U.S. troops are already involved, primarily assisting U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) in the detection and apprehension of people seeking to enter the United States illegally.

Stryker vehicles — a lightly armored attack vehicle carrying up to 11 soldiers and typically equipped with a machine gun or grenade launcher — have been used in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan. More recently, the Biden administration provided Stryker vehicles to Ukrainian forces.





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Indeed.

The Stryker combat vehicles are a sign to the drug cartels, (that Walter, apparently, does not want harmed) that President Trump is deadly serious about preventing the drugs that are killing hundreds of thousands of Americans, from crossing our borders.
 
I have been told that the Wall Street Mafia/CIA AKA Biden Administration paid the cartels $1,000 a head.
 
Can you come up with a use scenario for Strykers on our borders? What is the use for heavy armor? What threat are they countering?

Or is trump just wasting a lot of money to try to look cool?
you can't?

you;re dumber than shit.

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What exactly would the use of Strykers against asylum seekers? They are very expensive to run, and because of their weight, not the best all terrain vehicles. They are very good all terrain vehicles for their weight, but if you do not need that armor, then they are terrible.

So what is the need for heavy armor?
Just because they can.
 
you can't?

you;re dumber than shit.

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I don't believe that Walter even knows who won the election or why.

President Trump won on the issues that help hard working Americans and because dummies like Walter keep supporting waste, fraud, and abuse in government, they won't win again for a very long time.

They also oppose deporting violent, illegal criminals who have committed rape of children and murderers.
 
So trump is wasting a lot of taxpayer money, and degrading military preparedness just to look cool?

That is what I thought.
No, Walter, President Trump is protecting American sovereignty and the American people, even far left loons like you, Walter.
 
What exactly would the use of Strykers against asylum seekers? They are very expensive to run, and because of their weight, not the best all terrain vehicles. They are very good all terrain vehicles for their weight, but if you do not need that armor, then they are terrible. So what is the need for heavy armor?


Strykers are not "heavy armor", Salty Walty.

To determine whether Strykers qualify as "heavy armor," as claimed by Salty Walty on JustPlainPolitics.com, we need to clarify what "heavy armor" means in a military context and evaluate the Stryker's characteristics against that definition.

Since I don’t have direct access to Salty Walty’s specific claim on JustPlainPolitics.com, I’ll address the question based on the Stryker’s design, purpose, and how it’s classified by the U.S. Army and military experts.

"Heavy armor" typically refers to heavily protected, tracked vehicles like main battle tanks (e.g., the M1 Abrams) or infantry fighting vehicles (e.g., the M2 Bradley), designed to withstand significant enemy fire, including from large-caliber weapons and anti-tank munitions, while delivering substantial firepower. These vehicles often weigh 40–70 tons, have thick composite or reactive armor, and are built for direct, sustained combat against peer adversaries. In contrast, "light armor" prioritizes mobility and rapid deployment over protection, often using wheeled designs and lighter materials, while "medium armor" strikes a balance between the two.

The Stryker, an eight-wheeled armored vehicle developed by General Dynamics Land Systems, was introduced as part of the U.S. Army’s Interim Armored Vehicle program in the early 2000s. It was designed to equip Stryker Brigade Combat Teams (SBCTs), which aimed to bridge the gap between heavy, slow-to-deploy armored units and light, vulnerable infantry units. Weighing 19–26 tons depending on the variant and add-ons (like slat armor or the Double-V Hull), the Stryker is significantly lighter than heavy armor like the Abrams (over 60 tons) or Bradley (around 30–40 tons). Its base armor protects against 14.5mm machine gun fire and 152mm artillery airbursts, but it relies on speed, mobility, and situational awareness rather than thick armor for survival. Variants range from the Infantry Carrier Vehicle (ICV) with a .50-caliber machine gun or 30mm cannon to specialized versions like the Mobile Gun System (MGS) with a 105mm gun, though the latter has been phased out.

The Army itself classifies the Stryker as a "medium-weight" vehicle, not heavy armor. It was conceived to be transportable by C-130 aircraft (though range and conditions limit this capability), emphasizing strategic mobility over the brute force of heavy armor. In combat, such as in Iraq and Afghanistan, Strykers excelled in urban environments and rapid response roles but proved vulnerable to improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and anti-tank weapons without upgrades like the Double-V Hull or slat armor. Even with these enhancements, they don’t match the protection or firepower of tanks or heavy IFVs, which can engage enemy armor head-on with greater resilience.

Critics might argue the Stryker blurs lines—its weight and armament exceed traditional light armor like Humvees, and upgunned versions (e.g., the Stryker Dragoon with a 30mm cannon) pack a punch. But military doctrine and operational use consistently position it as a medium solution, not a heavy one. Heavy armor is about enduring prolonged, high-intensity engagements; the Stryker’s role is to get infantry to the fight quickly and support them, not to slug it out with tanks.

Without seeing Salty Walty’s exact phrasing, I can’t rule out a misunderstanding or exaggeration. If they called Strykers "heavy armor" to imply they’re tough or combat-proven, that’s a loose interpretation—Strykers are robust for their class but not in the league of heavy armor. Based on design, weight, armor, and Army intent, the Stryker isn’t "heavy armor" in any technical sense. It’s a medium-weight vehicle optimized for flexibility, not the brute strength Salty Walty might be suggesting.

So, no, Strykers aren’t "heavy armor"—they’re a middle ground, and the claim doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.



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