Philadelphia update!!! Judge orders observers allowed in counting! still Denied acces

Ah, perhaps because it is the law, in Pennsylvania, as well as other places (https://www.votespa.com/Your-Rights/Pages/Poll-Watchers.aspx), must be the demagogues you watch forgot to fill you in on those details

Think about it, use a little common sense, given the attention all these Board of Elections knew they were going to get, especially in what was thought to be swing States where Trump lawsuits were givens, you don’t think those in charge went out of their way to insure that everything was above board and transparent?
is your user name naive?

what do lawsuits do? Do you think once the ballots are harvested and counted something changes?
 
Concart is lying.

I saw proof to the opposite.

The official Republican observer was not allowed close enough to see the ballots.

They are not allowed to audit. So now, they aren't allowed close enough to see the ballots. See how easy that was?
 
Ah, perhaps because it is the law, in Pennsylvania, as well as other places (https://www.votespa.com/Your-Rights/Pages/Poll-Watchers.aspx)

That doesn't say what you think it says, Anchovies, and I suspect that's what you fail;ed to quote any text.

Authorized representatives are permitted to be present when envelopes containing official absentee ballots and mail-in ballots are opened and when such ballots are counted and recorded. This includes both the pre-canvass and canvass.

https://www.votespa.com/Your-Rights/Pages/Poll-Watchers.aspx
 
Unless said proof is cited and available for verification, it is not proof.

It will be in the lawsuit filed by the president’s lawyers but I did see the Republican observer say that he was not allowed to be close enough to see the ballots.
 
They are not allowed to audit. So now, they aren't allowed close enough to see the ballots. See how easy that was?

  • Absentee ballot processing and counting
  • Partisan observers are permitted to be present when absentee and mail-in ballot envelopes are opened, and when the ballots are counted and recorded (25 P.S. § 3146.8).
  • Post-election processes
  • Partisan observers may be present at the tabulation or canvassing of unofficial and official returns, and any recount or recanvass (25 P.S. § 2650).


https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/policies-for-election-observers.aspx
 
It will be in the lawsuit filed by the president’s lawyers but I did see the Republican observer say that he was not allowed to be close enough to see the ballots.

Predictions and anecdotal statements are not proof, Earl.

A state appeals court on Thursday granted more access to party and candidate observers, allowing them to get closer — 6 feet away — to election workers processing mail-in ballots in Philadelphia.

The decision came after the Trump campaign complained that its observer could not get close enough to election workers to see the writing on mail-in ballot envelopes, to ensure that the envelope contains a signature and an eligible voter’s name and address.

Ballots without that kind of information could be challenged or disqualified.


https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-pennsylvania-philadelphia-7723def50fb228df53c938d9711729fa
 
  • Absentee ballot processing and counting
  • Partisan observers are permitted to be present when absentee and mail-in ballot envelopes are opened, and when the ballots are counted and recorded (25 P.S. § 3146.8).
  • Post-election processes
  • Partisan observers may be present at the tabulation or canvassing of unofficial and official returns, and any recount or recanvass (25 P.S. § 2650).


https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/policies-for-election-observers.aspx

So? They are not allowed to see the ballots, meaning they cannot see who the person voted for. They can observe the ballots being opened. They cannot look at the ballot itself.
 
That doesn't say what you think it says, Anchovies, and I suspect that's what you fail;ed to quote any text.

Authorized representatives are permitted to be present when envelopes containing official absentee ballots and mail-in ballots are opened and when such ballots are counted and recorded. This includes both the pre-canvass and canvass.

https://www.votespa.com/Your-Rights/Pages/Poll-Watchers.aspx

Sure as hell does, “authorized,” meaning the party designates watchers who are then authorized by the local election board to serve as official poll watchers, and as I said, that is in addition to election inspectors who are doing the counting, again, one from each party

People can not just show up and demand to be poll watchers, use common sense, did you think those hundred or so clowns that were pounding on the windows in Philly were all going to be let in to hover over those doing the counting?
 
They are not allowed to audit. So now, they aren't allowed close enough to see the ballots. See how easy that was?

They are allowed to observe the ballots. They have not been allowed.

A judge just ruled that they can be within 6ft.

See how easy that was?
 
Sure as hell does, “authorized,” meaning the party designates watchers who are then authorized by the local election board to serve as official poll watchers, and as I said, that is in addition to election inspectors who are doing the counting, again, one from each party People can not just show up and demand to be poll watchers, use common sense, did you think those hundred or so clowns that were pounding on the windows in Philly were all going to be let in to hover over those doing the counting?

God damn, you're stupid. Observers at ballot counting facilities are not the same as poll watchers, Anchovies.
 
So? They are not allowed to see the ballots, meaning they cannot see who the person voted for. They can observe the ballots being opened. They cannot look at the ballot itself.

He doesn’t know what he is talking about, those people reviewing and counting the ballots have been selected by the local political party, every station has a Democrat, Republican, and an Independent representative. The poll watchers are also picked by the local party and approved by the local elections board, which in itself has equal Rep and Dem employees

“Copy and paste” is just too obstinate to accept the facts
 
Just imagine you are working to open and count ballots, and you have to do your job six feet away from an angry, ignorant knuckledragging moron who doesn't believe that the virus is real. I'd venture a guess that a bunch of them will just quit, slowing the process down even further.
 
God damn, you're stupid. Observers at ballot counting facilities are not the same as poll watchers, Anchovies.

Oh, so now we are going to dispute semantics? If poll watchers aren’t observers what in the hell is there function in being there?
 
Oh, so now we are going to dispute semantics? If poll watchers aren’t observers what in the hell is there function in being there?

Jesus, you're stupid.

Poll watchers are present during in-person voting at the polls, Anchovies. Hence the name "poll watcher".

Observers are present after the election when absentee and mailed ballots are being opened and counted.

  • Absentee ballot processing and counting
  • Partisan observers are permitted to be present when absentee and mail-in ballot envelopes are opened, and when the ballots are counted and recorded (25 P.S. § 3146.8).
  • Post-election processes
  • Partisan observers may be present at the tabulation or canvassing of unofficial and official returns, and any recount or recanvass (25 P.S. § 2650).


https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/policies-for-election-observers.aspx
 
Just imagine you are working to open and count ballots, and you have to do your job six feet away from an angry, ignorant knuckledragging moron who doesn't believe that the virus is real. I'd venture a guess that a bunch of them will just quit, slowing the process down even further.

You can imagine as many things as you like, and you can venture as many guesses as you like.
 
He doesn’t know what he is talking about, those people reviewing and counting the ballots have been selected by the local political party, every station has a Democrat, Republican, and an Independent representative. The poll watchers are also picked by the local party and approved by the local elections board, which in itself has equal Rep and Dem employees “Copy and paste” is just too obstinate to accept the facts

You still think that poll watchers are observing a separate post-election process? How? In a time machine?
 
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