Please Explain to me what is so great about Fred Thompson

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Cypress

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Spent a third of his life on the planet as a corporate lobbyist.

Had a modestly successful Hollywood career in supporting roles.

Had one term in the U.S. Senate, which by most accounts was lackluster, and characterized by laziness.
 
He's

(A) Not Bush
(B) Doesn't wear dresses (so far as we know)
(C) Not Cheney
(D) Hasn't publicly supported the notion that a woman is a human being
(E) Hasn't publicly dissed science completely
 
his 10yr old picture on law and order.
Dude is seriously old now and could challange Mccain in a race across the stage at the next debate with their walkers.:clink:
 
Cypress said:
Spent a third of his life on the planet as a corporate lobbyist.

Had a modestly successful Hollywood career in supporting roles.

Had one term in the U.S. Senate, which by most accounts was lackluster, and characterized by laziness.
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He has not officially entered the race. That is added appeal to those who are tiring of the current crop of candidates. Once he announces some of that appeal will be lost.

As far as one term in the Senate John Edwards served only one term and Obama hasn't served half a term. It doesn't seem the length of time served is too big of an issue (yet). If running for President were based on legislation passed in the Senate then Ted Kennedy would be the CIC.
 
Edwards worked his way up from the son of a union worker, to owning his own business: one of the top law offices in NC.

Edwards has shown aggresiveness, ambition, and energy: he's run for president twice, and vice president once. Word is that Thompson is too lazy to campaign aggressively. Does the mofo even want the job?

Edwards has a track record of public service - which includes his poverty think tank, and traveling the world to meet with important political leaders.

What's Thompson been doing? His law and order gig, working as a lobbyist, and generally laying low.
 
Cypress said:
Edwards worked his way up from the son of a union worker, to owning his own business: one of the top law offices in NC.

Edwards has shown aggresiveness, ambition, and energy: he's run for president twice, and vice president once. Word is that Thompson is too lazy to campaign aggressively. Does the mofo even want the job?

Edwards has a track record of public service - which includes his poverty think tank, and traveling the world to meet with important political leaders.

What's Thompson been doing? His law and order gig, working as a lobbyist, and generally laying low.
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One can also spin Edwards this way, he is an ambulance chaser and his one term in the Senate, where he didn't run again because the polls showed he would lose, represents his public experience.

If you really want to go old school in our Founding Father's generation it was looked down upon to ambitiously seak the Presidency.

Again, to a degree I understand where you are coming from but I also think you are spinning the angle to support the candidate(s) you want to suppport and not support the ones you don't want to.
 
cawacko said:
One can also spin Edwards this way, he is an ambulance chaser and his one term in the Senate, where he didn't run again because the polls showed he would lose, represents his public experience.

If you really want to go old school in our Founding Father's generation it was looked down upon to ambitiously seak the Presidency.

Again, to a degree I understand where you are coming from but I also think you are spinning the angle to support the candidate(s) you want to suppport and not support the ones you don't want to.
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You can make the case that a bigshot lawyer who owned his own law firm, is a dishonorable career.

You can't make the case that Edwards is lazy, inadequately ambitious, or lacksidaisical. Or, that he doesn't have many policial campaigns under his belt, and a genuine and ambitious drive for public service and leadership.

As far as I know, Thomspon is a lazy campaigner, and hasn't demonstrated that he as a fire in his belly for leadership and campaigning.
 
Cypress said:
You can make the case that a bigshot lawyer who owned his own law firm, is a dishonorable career.

You can't make the case that Edwards is lazy, inadequately ambitious, or lacksidaisical. Or, that he doesn't have many policial campaigns under his belt, and a genuine and ambitious drive for public service and leadership.

As far as I know, Thomspon is a lazy campaigner, and hasn't demonstrated that he as a fire in his belly for leadership and campaigning.
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I don't think many of us know whether the fire is in Thompson's belly. He'll obviously show us if and when he hits the campaign trail.

I also think he's done the right thing by staying out as long as he had. It's built up more a demand for him. Al Gore has done the same thing and he's working it to perfection.
 
Damocles said:
He's the new "Neo-Blessed" candidate. I hope he is not the Nominee.
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That'll put you in a bad position. Since you can't vote Democratic, or the world will end. You might end up in the position that Cypress claims you are always in anyway. Voting for the Republican no matter how incompetent or corrupt they are.

Well, cheer up, maybe the Dems will nominate a Republican. Maybe they will pull Zell Miller out of the senior's home, dust him off, clean up the drool, get him some new pants, and then you and SF can vote for the Democrat.
 
Darla said:
That'll put you in a bad position. Since you can't vote Democratic, or the world will end. You might end up in the position that Cypress claims you are always in anyway. Voting for the Republican no matter how incompetent or corrupt they are.

Well, cheer up, maybe the Dems will nominate a Republican. Maybe they will pull Zell Miller out of the senior's home, dust him off, clean up the drool, get him some new pants, and then you and SF can vote for the Democrat.
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Nah, I'd likely vote Libertarian again.
 
cawacko said:
I don't think many of us know whether the fire is in Thompson's belly. He'll obviously show us if and when he hits the campaign trail.

I also think he's done the right thing by staying out as long as he had. It's built up more a demand for him. Al Gore has done the same thing and he's working it to perfection.
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My contention, stated on another thread, is that by the time a man or woman are into their 30s, you already have all you need to know as to whether they are amitious, driven, energetic, and passionate about being a leader.

Thompson's 60 years old, dude. He has a life history. And it's not one of leadership. He worked as a lobbyist for two decades, but evidently never ran his own company. He never aspired to be a top hollywood actor: he was content with being a character actor in supporting roles, and having a relatively modest hollywood career. He evidently didn't like being a senator. He didn't do much, and left after one term, to return to small acting roles.



I mean, even Edwards has shown that fire in his belly, to be the top dog, and to be a leader.
 
Cypress said:
My contention, stated on another thread, is that by the time a man or woman are into their 30s, you already have all you need to know as to whether they are amitious, driven, energetic, and passionate about being a leader.

Thompson's 60 years old, dude. He has a life history. And it's not one of leadership. He worked as a lobbyist for two decades, but evidently never ran his own company. He never aspired to be a top hollywood actor: he was content with being a character actor in supporting roles, and having a relatively modest hollywood career. He evidently didn't like being a senator. He didn't do much, and left after one term, to return to small acting roles.



I mean, even Edwards has shown that fire in his belly, to be the top dog, and to be a leader.
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A lot of people want to be President and a lot of people want to be a leader and it takes more than just desire.

I don't have much of an opinion on Thompson one way or the other as I have not seen him speak.

I readily admit my differences on positions with Edwards clouds the way I view him but I do not view him as a leader. I personally believe Hillary and Obama show more leadership skills than Edwards.
 
All I'm saying cawacko, is for the next president, I want someone who driven to succeed; who has the fire in his/her belly; who strives to be top dog. These are the kind of people we need in leadership roles. Not some lacksedaisical hack, who never aspired to be top dog. I don't want a president who's "just like me", seems like an "average joe", or would be cool "to have a beer with". I want somebody exceptional. Someone who makes it a point to strive for excellence and leadership.

With that in mind, you can't even compare Edwards to Thompson. Thompson never aspired to be top dog in virtually anything he did. Whether it was being some faceless lobbyist working at someone else's firm, or him being content with being a small time, modest Hollywood supporting actor.

Edwards obviously was driven and aggresive enough to try to be top dog. He had the fire in his belly. Whether it was becoming one of the top lawyers in the country, to owning and running his own law firm, to campaigning twice for president, once for vice president, and once for senate.
 
He's an actor and Americans love illusion.

That's it in a nutshell.

However, he supports the war, has the same positions as Bush and McCain, and he thinks protesters are "terrorists" .. thus, he will never be president.
 
blackascoal said:
He's an actor and Americans love illusion.

That's it in a nutshell.

However, he supports the war, has the same positions as Bush and McCain, and he thinks protesters are "terrorists" .. thus, he will never be president.
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If a moron like George Bush can get elected president, I don't rule anything out.
 
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