Politicians don't get elected to obstruct

this is completely false. Our elected representatives are there to protect ALL of our rights. If legislation is crafted that infringes on any of our natural rights, it is their DUTY to obstruct.

That's not the kind of obstruction the Republicans are engaging in.

The border bill makes big concessions to GOP priorities. It would improve the situation at the border. Republicans aren't moving forward w/ it because they want to help Trump's campaign.
 
That's not the kind of obstruction the Republicans are engaging in.

The border bill makes big concessions to GOP priorities. It would improve the situation at the border. Republicans aren't moving forward w/ it because they want to help Trump's campaign.

A lie.

No, the funds are for more border agents to process more illegals into the streets of America.

The bill allows 5000 illegals per day, 1.8 million per year, to enter the US.

No, zero illegals. Close the border.
 
A lie.

No, the funds are for more border agents to process more illegals into the streets of America.

The bill allows 5000 illegals per day, 1.8 million per year, to enter the US.

No, zero illegals. Close the border.

I'm substantially less concerned about the undocumented immigrants
than I am about the people already here--people like yourself-- who need to be weeded out--

at least 74,000,000 million of them.
 
That's not the kind of obstruction the Republicans are engaging in.
agreed. the Republicans are no different than Democrats when it comes to obstructing a president of the opposite party.

The border bill makes big concessions to GOP priorities. It would improve the situation at the border. Republicans aren't moving forward w/ it because they want to help Trump's campaign.
sadly, this is half true, half false. While I agree that the Republicans highest priority is to negatively impact the biden/democrats campaign, the other priority is the ukraine funding.
 
That's not the kind of obstruction the Republicans are engaging in.

The border bill makes big concessions to GOP priorities. It would improve the situation at the border. Republicans aren't moving forward w/ it because they want to help Trump's campaign.

:bullshit:

We don't want to allow 1.8 million illegals a year into the US.
 
agreed. the Republicans are no different than Democrats when it comes to obstructing a president of the opposite party.


sadly, this is half true, half false. While I agree that the Republicans highest priority is to negatively impact the biden/democrats campaign, the other priority is the ukraine funding.
Republicans have not sunk to trying to jail the front runner of the other party. Yet.
 
I'm substantially less concerned about the undocumented immigrants
than I am about the people already here--people like yourself-- who need to be weeded out--

at least 74,000,000 million of them.

Perhaps one of these illegals will visit you before the Grim Reaper (Thanatos) does, old man.

One can only hope.
 
I'm substantially less concerned about the undocumented immigrants
than I am about the people already here--people like yourself-- who need to be weeded out--

at least 74,000,000 million of them.

“at least 74,000,000 million…” 74,000,000 x a million…

That’s a lot of millions, old timer.

Did you learn math in the back of a pick-up truck?
 
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A lie.

No, the funds are for more border agents to process more illegals into the streets of America.

The bill allows 5000 illegals per day, 1.8 million per year, to enter the US.

No, zero illegals. Close the border.

It would have improved the situation at the border.

Conservatives do not care about the border.
 
“Lock her up” was a political slogan.

There were never attempts to charge Hillary for multiple crimes.
 
It would have improved the situation at the border.

Conservatives do not care about the border.

No, it would have guaranteed 1.8 million illegals a year crossing into the US and more Border Agents to process more illegals into the streets of America.
 
Was she charged for crimes, was she impeached, was she defeated in 2016, yes she was. .

It wasn't a "political slogan." Trump made promises about it in his speeches - which prompted the chants.

And they chanted it at every rally.

And now, here you are, trying to say some variation of, 'oh, it was never really serious.' LOL. That is absurd. Trump and his crowd were enthusiastic & committed about going after political opponents legally.

The double-standards you guys have are epic. Just otherworldly. Kudos.
 
They why did the leftist maggots do absolutely NOTHING but try to "get trump" for the four years of his presidency?

Except the leftists did NOT do that.

So there is that.

The Democrats were solely REACTIVE when Trump took actions that required response.

What you are saying is like blaming the cop for arresting the guy at the scene of the crime. The answer to NOT have that arrest is to not blame the cop, and is to tell the criminal to stop criming.
 
Here is what has changed in our politics.

The old expression of "election have consequences" was one that meant 'the party that won would get to govern on the election planks they campaigned upon' and the party that lost would largely allow it. There was always some push by the losing party to soften the agenda but no real belief that it was, in fact, the losing party who would get to govern and set the terms for policy and legislation, or go scorched earth. The belief was that going scorched earth would hurt the arsonists more than the other party.

Over the last few years the Magats on the extreme edge, have taken to saying, even though we are small minority within our own party, EVERYTHING has to be done EXACTLY as we dictate or we will torch the party.

And they have torched their own party over and over again. And now they are extending that to the Dems, saying 'yes you won, but you still must govern as if we won and only legislation written the way we want it will pass'.

What is the big difference in this now, that so emboldens Magats?

it is the extreme gerrymandering that creates safe districts regardless of how deplorable or dangerous the politician is. There is no risk of losing your seat for going scorched earth, even if the country is burning and the vast, vast majority hold different views.

Thus why Trump was pushing to crash the Debt Ceiling despite the over whelming harm it would do to ALL Americans and almost certainly cause a world wide Great recession.
Thus why Trump was pushing not allow the Continuing Resolutions hoping that government would crash and America would suffer.
Thus why Trump wants the border kept "open" for at least another 12 months and wants nothing to done to change that.

The arsonist (Trump and Magats) believe that if the country suffers (as they did in Covid) citizen often seek 'change' in leadership, even if they are not specifically blaming the leadership.


So you can guarantee for all time going forward unless this gerry mandering thing can be corrected, nation wide, the goal of those in the extremes will ALWAYS be to harm America hoping it harms the majority party and gains them more power. They DO NOT care about the impact on American citizens other than hoping it REALLY hurts them and they REALLY react.
 
Except the leftists did NOT do that.

So there is that.

The Democrats were solely REACTIVE when Trump took actions that required response.

What you are saying is like blaming the cop for arresting the guy at the scene of the crime. The answer to NOT have that arrest is to not blame the cop, and is to tell the criminal to stop criming.

No of course not they cooperated with trump on everything he wanted to do. Honest to goodness no one is as stupid as you leftists.
 
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