Poll: Is there a connection between the US flag and the East India Company?

Is there a connection between the US Flag and the East India Company Flag?

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Tomorrow is Flag Day. Will you be burning a flag tomorrow Jack? Just askin'...
 
"The design of the flag is strikingly similar to the flag of the British East India Company (EIC). Indeed, certain EIC designs in use since 1707 (when the canton was changed from the flag of England to that of the Kingdom of Great Britain) were nearly identical, but the number of stripes varied from 9 to 15. That EIC flags could be well have been known by the U.S. colonists has been the basis of a theory of the origin of the national flag's design.[6]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Union_Flag
 
They are similar, but if the flag is a coincidence or a knock-off, what is the significance??
 
Bill said:
They are similar, but if the flag is a coincidence or a knock-off, what is the significance??
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Well, then. The Question would arise; Is the United States, in fact, the East India Company. A Global Trading Entity?
 
"Upon receiving Royal Assent to trade in the Indian Ocean by Queen Elizabeth I in 1600, the English East India Company adopted a flag of thirteen red and white stripes with the flag of England in canton.[1] It was reported that the number of stripes was chosen because many of the East India Company's shareholders were Freemasons, and the number thirteen is considered powerful in freemasonry.[2] However, different reports gave varying initial numbers of stripes.[citation needed]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_East_India_Company
 
"The flag of the East India Company is considered to have inspired the Grand Union Flag, the first flag of the United States, as the two flags were of the same design.[3] This connection is attributed to numerous sources. Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania once gave a speech endorsing the adoption of the Company's flag by the United States as their national flag. He said to George Washington of Virginia, "While the field of your flag must be new in the details of its design, it need not be entirely new in its elements. There is already in use a flag, I refer to the flag of the East India Company."[9] This was a way of symbolising American loyalty to the Crown as well as the United States' aspirations to be self-governing, as was the East India Company. Some colonists also felt that the Company could be a powerful ally in the American War of Independence, as they shared similar aims and grievances against the British government tax policies. Colonists therefore flew the Company's flag, to endorse the Company.[10]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_East_India_Company
 
Bill said:
They are similar, but if the flag is a coincidence or a knock-off, what is the significance??
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If you want to take this a step further.
Which is better, having a Global Trading Entity that is composed of the Wealthy of every nationality, race, ethnic group, religion. (let's call it 'America Corporation')
or a Global Trading Entity that is composed of the same but has a significant 'Government' component as a Shareholder. (let's call it 'China Corporation')
 
THE UNITED STATES (in capitals) isn't a country; it's a corporation! ... The corporation was created for the District of Columbia, aka Washington, D.C. (not even a state), via the Act of 1871. THE UNITED STATES corporation operates under private international law with their own corporate constitution.
 
Howard the Duck said:
The Founders didn't like the EIC. It would certainly be amusing if they got that careless. :cof1:
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I'm not sure that is true.
The EIC was founded by wealthy Merchants of London. Probably similar in viewpoint as the Founding Fathers.

Up until the time of 1773, the EIC couldn't directly unload their foreign cargo in the Colonies, it had to be sold to Merchants in England first, then resold to the Colonies with a 3 pence tax added. Both the EIC and the Colonies felt the 3 pence tax was unfair.
 
Howard the Duck said:
The Founders didn't like the EIC. It would certainly be amusing if they got that careless. :cof1:
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"On this point the Company was in agreement with Franklin, for in 1667 it had advocated an alteration of the duties to prevent
smuggling,(66) and in the beginning of 1773 it urged the abolition of the duty of 3d. a pound on tea in America, which Lord North's ministry insisted on retaining.(67)"
https://fotw.info/flags/gb-eic2.html
 
Jack said:
I'm not sure that is true.
The EIC was founded by wealthy Merchants of London. Probably similar in viewpoint as the Founding Fathers.

Up until the time of 1773, the EIC couldn't directly unload their foreign cargo in the Colonies, it had to be sold to Merchants in England first, then resold to the Colonies with a 3 pence tax added. Both the EIC and the Colonies felt the 3 pence tax was unfair.
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In truth, the colonists saw the duty free sale of EIC tea as an implicit admission of Parliament's right of taxation. This was assumed to be part of the reason why Parliament wrote the act, which followed the Declaratory Act, passed after the Townsend repeal, that asserted that Parliament had the right to tax the colonists.

So, you're probably correct that there was no specific contempt for the EIC.
 
Controlled Opposition said:
THE UNITED STATES (in capitals) isn't a country; it's a corporation! ... The corporation was created for the District of Columbia, aka Washington, D.C. (not even a state), via the Act of 1871. THE UNITED STATES corporation operates under private international law with their own corporate constitution.
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Absurdity; a sure sign of the last desperate refuge for liars, fools and ignorance; and those who have lost their arguments. Yay you! :clap:
 
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