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Dutch Uncle
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T. A. Gardner
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T. A. Gardner
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Dutch Uncle
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The fact remains the Republicans are close to being able to name whatever Republican President they desire by controlling the votes.
Play all the games you like, but that's not freedom.
T. A. Gardner
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The fact remains the Republicans are close to being able to name whatever Republican President they desire by controlling the votes.
Play all the games you like, but that's not freedom.
It's also not fascism, nor is it something do with Nazis.
Dutch Uncle
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What is it when a President seeks to overthrow the Constitution he was sworn to uphold?
BTW, do you believe an oath should be held legally binding forever unless officially renounced? I strongly believe it's morally binding forever, but YMMV.
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T. A. Gardner
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I think an oath of office is legally binding while in that office. Once you leave office, you are back to being just another citizen or whatever. An oath of office is never morally binding, because you have no means to enforce morality on anyone at anytime. You can only enforce the legal or illegal acts they perform.
Dutch Uncle
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Legally, you are correct. Disagreed morally. The oath itself has no time limit like the contract we each signed.
Not a lawyer but my best info is that it's never been tested in court. After all, how often does treason and sedition come up? LOL
FWIW, if they ask my opinion, I support holding people to their word but leave open the option that they can openly and legally renounce their oath. Thoughts?
T. A. Gardner
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Treason and sedition are legal issues, not moral ones. Someone can think they are acting perfectly moral and correct while committing either. Look no further than the US Civil War for proof of that.
Dutch Uncle
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Agreed it's all legal and I'm not a fucking lawyer.
If the oath is held up on a court of law, would the UCMJ apply against the vets?
The Civil War was over 150 years ago. A few things have changed since then. Heck, the official records act has changed since Nixon and Trump. LOL
T. A. Gardner
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No, the UCMJ does not apply to veterans. For example, on the back of my retired military ID card, my status is listed as "civilian." The UCMJ only applies to service members on active duty or official orders.
Dutch Uncle
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How old is your ID card? Mine has INDEF on the front and a bunch of numbers on the back. Mine's the Next Generation USID Card.
T. A. Gardner
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Mine is the old blue one--at least for another 2 months. Then I have to get a new one.
Dutch Uncle
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T. A. Gardner
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Yep. Not quite there yet...
