POV footage from the ICE agent who was RAMMED by anti-ICE activist Renee Good in Minneapolis has been released

BartenderElite said:
I have given him benefit of the doubt on this. But I also think his actions were unnecessary given the threat - the car was moving slowly, and turning away from him. If it was really about protecting his own life, you would think the instinct would be to jump back further from the vehicle, instead of taking his gun out, aiming & shooting - which ended up created a more dangerous situation.

But I get that it was split second. I just think that people are going overboard trying to make it seem like she was trying to run the guy down. Which she obviously was not.
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He had all of a second or so to make a decision. The other woman present was clearly being confrontational with the officers. In that split second he had to make a decision and he did so decisively. Good was the one that fucked up by just being there mucking in the officer's business.

It is also clear that Good was being told prior to her trying to escape, to get out of the vehicle, and like also told she would be arrested. She decided to flee rather than do what the officers were telling her. Never a good idea.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
He had all of a second or so to make a decision. The other woman present was clearly being confrontational with the officers. In that split second he had to make a decision and he did so decisively. Good was the one that fucked up by just being there mucking in the officer's business.

It is also clear that Good was being told prior to her trying to escape, to get out of the vehicle, and like also told she would be arrested. She decided to flee rather than do what the officers were telling her. Never a good idea.
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She panicked, without a doubt. If I had to guess, the officer made his split-second decision based on the previous experience he had. Which doesn't necessarily make it the right decision.

It just seems like if he was trying to protect his own life, even in a split second, the instinct would be to jump back from the vehicle, which barely hit him to begin with. He didn't even lose his footing, even though he took time to aim & shoot rather than backing away more.
 
BartenderElite said:
I have given him benefit of the doubt on this. But I also think his actions were unnecessary given the threat - the car was moving slowly, and turning away from him. If it was really about protecting his own life, you would think the instinct would be to jump back further from the vehicle, instead of taking his gun out, aiming & shooting - which ended up created a more dangerous situation.

But I get that it was split second. I just think that people are going overboard trying to make it seem like she was trying to run the guy down. Which she obviously was not.
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The problem here is that the ICE officers weren't equipped with less than lethal means to deal with assholes like Good. Local police, who would have had such means, were told by their management to not get involved or help. It is the retards on the Left making ICE and CBP out to be evil bad guys that are fucking this all to hell and back.
 
BartenderElite said:
I have given him benefit of the doubt on this. But I also think his actions were unnecessary given the threat - the car was moving slowly, and turning away from him. If it was really about protecting his own life, you would think the instinct would be to jump back further from the vehicle, instead of taking his gun out, aiming & shooting - which ended up created a more dangerous situation.

But I get that it was split second. I just think that people are going overboard trying to make it seem like she was trying to run the guy down. Which she obviously was not.
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I hear that. But I do see that with the one guy reaching into the vehicle in an attempt to open the door after he found it locked the first time, the guy may also have been worried about his coworker and whether that coworker might be dragged. Split second later things change... I also wonder if the gun went off because he was hit, not because he meant to pull the trigger.

It is clear that she knew they were law enforcement, you can hear him give a lawful order, in a way that didn't seem to be an attempt to deescalate.

I'd like to see the first reaction be towards less than lethal weapons, but if we are going with "what did the officer think"... It seems that he thought there were lives in danger and that we would have a very difficult time proving he did not, and if we use the same standard we always use for law enforcement... I think they'll find this justified.
 
BartenderElite said:
MAGA's have the double-standard on this one. Not me.

As evidenced by your characterization above.
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You retarded? You asked

"So, if someone is committing a felony - it's okay for an officer to shoot them?"

Was ashli babbitt committing a felony? Was she shot? Or maybe she was committing a misdemeanor in which case it was perfectly ok to shoot her, is that it? This is why you idiots are deformed monkeys.
 
Damocles said:
I hear that. But I do see that with the one guy reaching into the vehicle in an attempt to open the door after he found it locked the first time, the guy may also have been worried about his coworker and whether that coworker might be dragged. Split second later things change...

It is clear that she knew they were law enforcement, you can hear him give a lawful order, in a way that didn't seem to be an attempt to deescalate.

I'd like to see the first reaction be towards less than lethal weapons, but if we are going with "what did the officer think"... It seems that he thought there were lives in danger and that we would have a very difficult time proving he did not, and if we use the same standard we always use for law enforcement... I think they'll find this justified.
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I agree w/ that. I think they'll find it justified also, just based on the split-second nature of it.

He was more aggressive w/ his firearm than I would like to see from law enforcement in general, but that's just my opinion. She didn't have to die, and it's really sad that she did.
 
BartenderElite said:
She panicked, without a doubt. If I had to guess, the officer made his split-second decision based on the previous experience he had. Which doesn't necessarily make it the right decision.

It just seems like if he was trying to protect his own life, even in a split second, the instinct would be to jump back from the vehicle, which barely hit him to begin with. He didn't even lose his footing, even though he took time to aim & shoot rather than backing away more.
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There's no knowing for sure. He might not have been able to get out of the way and given the street conditions--snow and ice--it might not have been possible to easily move back without losing balance. We don't know.

What we DO know is:

Good had no real reason to be there to begin with.
Good and her lezzy partner were actively engaged in obstructing and agitating with the ICE officers.
An ICE officer went to remove Good from her vehicle and arrest her. He was supported by other officers in doing that.
Good did not follow the instructions of the law enforcement officers and chose to flee instead.

That's all 100% clear now.

Good put herself in the shit position of committing several potential felonies and got shot for doing it. This is 98% her fucking fault.

As for Babbitt, it's the same thing. Byrd had far less reason to shoot but Babbitt, but she put herself in the position where he could shoot her.
 
She was there to INTENTIONALLY obstruct the ongoing law-enforcement operation.

She was instructed TWICE to get out of the vehicle by armed federal officers.

Her partner got into the vehicle and she intended to flee, not caring that she ran over the other officer. She CLEARLY saw him.

The officer reacted to defend himself from some one fleeing federal officers by driving thru/over one of them.

Righteous shoot, case closed.
 
volsrocks said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2009683575298211979
View: https://x.com/nicksortor/status/2009683575298211979


This view is exactly what needs to be released. Not only did she see him, she also wasn’t panicked. She knew exactly what she was doing, and 100% justified.
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How can you tell he was hit hard? He didn't drop his cell phone and was able to pull out his weapon and fire 3 shots. He was not knocked down by the car and he was able to walk normally after the car went past him.

What you do see in the video is how clear it was that she was turning her wheel to avoid him and the agent should have also seen that.
 
This poor, terrified cop was using his cell phone to take a video as he went after the woman. It shows very little tension. She jumped in her car and drove away. She turned to go down the road. She was not screaming or violent. The cop will probably sue her for stealing his bullets.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The problem here is that the ICE officers weren't equipped with less than lethal means to deal with assholes like Good. Local police, who would have had such means, were told by their management to not get involved or help. It is the retards on the Left making ICE and CBP out to be evil bad guys that are fucking this all to hell and back.
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That is an interesting argument since in the earlier incident :

While being dragged, Mr. Ross fired his Taser at Mr. Muñoz, shocking him twice, the affidavit said, but Mr. Muñoz continued to drive for about 100 yards, weaving back and forth in an apparent effort to shake the agent from the car, which he finally did.

Are you lying or did Ross lie about the earlier incident?
 
POS driving the car couldn’t be shot dead enough, and her yappin’ spouse should be up on murder charges for the death of the driver during their criminal act of obstructing, and attempted murder.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
That is an interesting argument since in the earlier incident :

While being dragged, Mr. Ross fired his Taser at Mr. Muñoz, shocking him twice, the affidavit said, but Mr. Muñoz continued to drive for about 100 yards, weaving back and forth in an apparent effort to shake the agent from the car, which he finally did.

Are you lying or did Ross lie about the earlier incident?
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That they had such equipment at one operation doesn't mean they had it at this operation.
 
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