Private Central Planning<--What we have

[Sammy Jankis]

Our economy is centrally planned by the federal reserve, banks, and the largest corporations.

We have central planning, but it's not performed by the government. Our government is just their tool.

When they put out the word that the "new normal", aka harder lives for americans, is here to stay, and all that's left is "austerity measures" to fix the budget, you know their plans have been finalized.

Of course our whole economy could be saved with protectionist measures, but they ignore this fact, and instead prefer all countries to broken and unsustainable as separate units. They talk about "comparative advantage" and all that crap as an excuse to turn nations into overspecialized and broken entities.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Comparative advantage is mathematical fact. It's like arguing against 1/3.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Comparative advantage is mathematical fact. It's like arguing against 1/3.

It's actually analogous to the "false choice" logical fallacy.


We dont actually have to choose ONE THING that our "nation" does.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Our economy is centrally planned by the federal reserve, banks, and the largest corporations.

We have central planning, but it's not performed by the government. Our government is just their tool.

When they put out the word that the "new normal", aka harder lives for americans, is here to stay, and all that's left is "austerity measures" to fix the budget, you know their plans have been finalized.

Of course our whole economy could be saved with protectionist measures, but they ignore this fact, and instead prefer all countries to broken and unsustainable as separate units. They talk about "comparative advantage" and all that crap as an excuse to turn nations into overspecialized and broken entities.

this is interesting to me....

what protectionist measures would save our whole economy?

the japanese have a protectionist economy and it has at times been great and at times been bad for them.....

 

[wiseones2cents]

The day they(FR) gained a monopoly on America's credit, is the day they took over America.

Backed by worthless paper money, not backed by real wealth, that has a tendency to depreciate in value. Though they have so many scams and fail safes to protect that from happening. Every time they come up with a problem, they change the rules.....Like selling debt and currency and what may have you.

The first central banks in Amsterdam and Sweden, both went broke for issuing too many of those worthless bank notes.

And when the people used to panic and wanted to pull out their money(which was already invested elsewhere), the economy would collapse. But now? The feds will just make more money to cover the losses(What a scam indeed!!)And we pay for it through inflation.

Just like the Stock markets shut down and wont let you sell, if it hits a certain low.


Not to mention, at one time, paper currency could have been redeemed for real wealth(Gold and Silver). Today it has no real value.So the creditors always hold on to the real wealth.

And with money backed by nothing, they can produce as much as they want and buy whatever Land or business they want(They can buy the world if they chose to)... Got to hand it to these thieves. They are good at what they do.

"It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

 

[Sammy Jankis]

this is interesting to me....

what protectionist measures would save our whole economy?

the japanese have a protectionist economy and it has at times been great and at times been bad for them.....

Which ones wouldn't?

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Which ones wouldn't?

so you're saying all protectionist policies work...all the time

 

[Sammy Jankis]

so you're saying all protectionist policies work...all the time

Im saying protectionism in this current context would work wonders. our problems all stem from an idiotic trade deficit, which could be remedied by a myriad of means.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

But the question then for conservative types is "is central planning only bad when government does it?" And "if so, why? or if not, why not?" 10 points for not being moronic.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Im saying protectionism in this current context would work wonders. our problems all stem from an idiotic trade deficit, which could be remedied by a myriad of means.

specifically azzhat...what protectionist policies do you think woudl work and why....

you keep repeating the mantra, yet i haven't seen you explain how it would work and what specific policies you would put in place

dazzle me with your brilliance

 

[Sammy Jankis]

specifically azzhat...what protectionist policies do you think woudl work and why....

you keep repeating the mantra, yet i haven't seen you explain how it would work and what specific policies you would put in place

dazzle me with your brilliance

Protectionist policies stimulate domestic production and job growth. This is a known economic fact. Do you deny it?

 

[Minister of Truth]

He means specifics, such as tariffs, embargoes, etc.

 

[Minister of Truth]

Comparative advantage is mathematical fact. It's like arguing against 1/3.

You are truly awesome.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

He means specifics, such as tariffs, embargoes, etc.

apparently i needed to spell it out for him

i wonder if azzhattle actually understands what protectionist policies are and their impact on the economy

 

[Sammy Jankis]

apparently i needed to spell it out for him

i wonder if azzhattle actually understands what protectionist policies are and their impact on the economy

It's quite simple. the protectionist policies make imports more expensive, thus making it cheaper to produce things domestically, creating domestic jobs and increasing demand in the process.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

You are truly awesome.

Except it's actually the case that "comparative advantage" is a logical fallacy known as "the false dilemma".

It's not actually the case that we have to choose ONE THING to do as a nation.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

It's quite simple. the protectionist policies make imports more expensive, thus making it cheaper to produce things domestically, creating domestic jobs and increasing demand in the process.

what specific policies? subsidies, tariffs....? what and how would you implement that policy...iow...what subsidies, how high of tariffs?

are you advocating an end to free trade?

 

[Sammy Jankis]

what specific policies? subsidies, tariffs....? what and how would you implement that policy...iow...what subsidies, how high of tariffs?

are you advocating an end to free trade?

Do you have some kind of argument about how protectionist policies don't help create jobs domestically? Stop fucking sputtering and man up.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Do you have some kind of argument about how protectionist policies don't help create jobs domestically? Stop fucking sputtering and man up.

so you really can't be specific....you can't name one single policy that would help....you can't actually explain which policies would work and how they would work....

nice catch phrases though

 

[Sammy Jankis]

so you really can't be specific....you can't name one single policy that would help....you can't actually explain which policies would work and how they would work....

nice catch phrases though

You don't seem to understand the general dynamics at play.

Protectionist policies, tariffs, limiting trade to some extent, incentivize domestic production and job creation.

you have yet to explain how the general dynamic i'm explaining is in err.