Pro-Life???
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Boris The Animal
It's Just Boris!
I thought this was going to be a serious discussion. Carry on with your irrational hatred.
Are you gone yet?
Paul Siraisi
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I bet Boehner said something like, 'about time she figured out bangs for that forehead'.
Billy the Great Khan
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Don't, Ken has been online for about 15 years and I'm willing to bet he's posted less than a whole paragraph in his entire life.
That is nonsense, you can be pro gun, and pro life IE protection, pro life, and pro death penalty, it's the difference between innocence and guilt, and no one is pro war we are pro protecting our nation.
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The Almighty
Every thread Ken begins is simply going to be the same type of cartoons. Always from the far left... always a severe distortion
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There isn't any reason that a cartoon can't inspire a good discussion.
There are definitely inherent contradictions with having a pro-life & pro-death penalty view, for instance. Or for ANYONE who supported the Iraq invasion to claim they are pro-life.
There are definitely inherent contradictions with having a pro-life & pro-death penalty view, for instance. Or for ANYONE who supported the Iraq invasion to claim they are pro-life.
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The Almighty
No there are not contradictions in being pro-life and pro-death penalty. One is an innocent life, the other guilty of a horrendous crime.
A case can be made for the Iraq war as in all wars innocents will be killed. But the difference lies in intent. You are deliberately taking the innocent life with an abortion. I won't say that all innocents deaths in war are accidental, but I do believe we try to avoid them as much as possible. The exception would be the drone strikes/large scale bombings. I think we use them knowing they will result in the death of innocents.
cawacko
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Yes a cartoon can start a good discussion but it's comng from someone who for over a decade had posted only cartoons and then participated in none of the discussions that followed. It's freaking weird. Who does that? (ken does obviously but you get my point)
I am pro-choice but I don't really see an issue with someone being pro-life and pro-death penalty. To me a child doesn't have an option of wanting to be born or not. An individual does have the option of not performing an act where the punishment is the death penalty. And by bringing up the Iraq War is that to imply someone who is pro-life must be a pacifist and against all wars?
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To your 1st point, what's the difference? Life is life.
To the 2nd, you don't start a campaign called "shock & awe" without knowing there will be civilian casualties. Call it what you want; it's knowingly killing innocents.
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As for the death penalty, I guess the bigger argument there would be cases where justice failed and the wrong person was convicted.
I think there are very rare cases where war is necessary - WWII was the last necessary war America fought, imo. A war like Iraq? A completely unnecessary conflict, that caused countless civilian casualties and suffering. Yeah - I think anyone who supported that and then says they are "pro life" is a bit off.
Neither pro-life nor pro-choice have anything to do with the death penalty or war.....neither.
Its nothing but strawman bullshit, again and again.....
"it's just something bigots have done for years. Try to equate equivalency where none exists.
It fails every time."........recognize this quote Thingy1 ? Just substitute 'lefties' for 'bigots'.......
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The Almighty
Again... guilt vs. innocence... I believe in putting down a rabid dog as well... does that mean I should never own a dog? Does it make you feel better if I say I a pro-innocent-life?
More word games from you are to follow I am sure...
So in reality, you just wish to rehash the Iraq war. Ok... have at it. Debate with yourself.
'Life is life'......spoken like a true moron.......and I guess killing unborn humans is pro choice ?
Both 9 and 10 stated the difference clearly enough.
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Unsurprising - a couple of cop-out answers from the righties.
Let's get some better conservatives for the board, shall we?
Let's get some better conservatives for the board, shall we?
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The Almighty
In which case the pro-life person would be in favor of protecting the innocent life. Being for the death penalty does not mean a person supports using it in cases of wrongful conviction. That is another issue. I am all for the Dahmers/Bundy's etc... being put down. I am not in support of cases, especially those where minorities were convicted prior to the 1990's being subject to the DP.
how did WWII become necessary? At least in the European theater? What justification did we have there that you support?
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For the record, I'm not against the death penalty. But nor do I classify myself as "pro life". I think anyone who does classify themselves as pro-life, yet supports death, has some explaining to do.
As for WWII, we were attacked, and we do have an obligation to our allies as well.