Pro-Life???
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Nor should you.....pro-life and pro-choice only have significance concerning ONE topic....abortion.....not war and not the death penalty.....can the strawman stuff.
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Darla
What you said is disgusting, and if you get to the point where you have to type something like that, then regardless of what you claim your "mood" is, you should either see a doctor, or take a break from the board.
Period.
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Hmmm, indeed.
I can't keep trying to explain obvious things to you, for example, that saying you hate someone doesn't = calling you a racist, or saying that the difference between pro-life folks supporting unnecessary war and pro-choice folks supporting abortion has to do w/ the universally held belief that people who die in war are people, whereas fetuses who are aborted...well, let's just say that there is some disagreement over whether that is a "child" or not.
And here you are telling me that my whole premise is based on "everyone thinking like me", which is pure projection on your part. The irony is delightful.
The difference is intent....look it up.....the purpose of abortion is killing, thats the entire intention from the get go.....death = success
killing innocent war victims is not the intention of war, at least here in the west. Killing innocents = failure in our eyes
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ok Darla dear... whatever you say. As I stated, you want to project your anger on to others. That is sad. Just as it is sad to try and dehumanize a human being in order to justify killing it. pretending that abortion is about womens sexual freedom is even sadder.
I didn't ask you nor care if you opposed it....try again....
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And on WWII, our obligation to our allies ends beyond situations where they are attacked or in danger.
My question
And is that why we were dropping bombs in Yugoslavia during the Clinton years......?
Its legal SF......if she needs to rationalize the details to justify it in her mind ..... thats her hangup.....most people that have a degree of denial do the same thing.
I am not 'rabidly' against abortion, but I'm really offended that people refuse to admit what they are doing in reality....
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Guess you missed my answer on that - that's tough to do.
And don't be intellectually dishonest; your question was a typical "gotcha".
I posted your answer about your being opposed to it.......but its not relevant to the question....so its YOU being intellectually dishonest.....
don't answer then, I don't care one way or another.
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OK...I stand corrected.....guess I was just hoping for a little clarity and a more ....."adult" response...
Care to tell us what the hell we were doing bombing the citizens of Yugoslavia....(you're opposition is noted)
I take it you don't think Clinton had a valid reason to do it.
He didn't get congressional approval either did he ?...same as Obama and Lybia...
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But isn't that exactly what pro-lifers do? Isn't the argument that life begins at conception when absolutely no one knows if every conception contains the necessary ingredients to become a human being? No one knows why 50% of conceptions spontaneously abort but we do know babies are born with all kinds of genetic deficiencies including a major part of the brain. Is it so far fetched to conclude some conceptions lack sufficient ingredients/programming to become a viable anything? Is it not logical to realize every conception is not a life or baby or human being?
Science tells us a fertilized cell/zygote/fetus is an organism. Science also says an "organism - a living thing that has (or can develop) the ability to act or function independently"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/organism
So, let's look at the first step. Does a fetus have the ability to act or function independently? Is being physically attached to a human considered being independent? Is depending on the organs and blood and the very metabolism ( the sum of the physical and chemical processes in an organism) of another organism considered acting independently?
Then we have "or can develop" the ability to act or function independently. So, let's take a child with Tay-sachs disease. "Expectations (prognosis) Children with this disease have symptoms that get worse over time. They usually die by age 4 or 5."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002390/
Symptoms: blindness, dementia, paralysis, seizures....then the end. That all happens by 5 years of age so I think we can agree to say it never did act or function independently nor ever had the ability to do so. It did not meet the definition of an organism and if it didn't qualify as an organism then it certainly didn't qualify as a human being That's according to science. That's according to the definitions of science.
The point being science can define anything any way it wants. All human begins may start out as a conception but that doesn't mean all conceptions are human beings. No one knows. We do, however, know beyond any doubt a pregnant woman is a human being and before stripping them of their rights it's only fair as well as logical we have the knowledge and ability to determine if a clump of cells are a human being before we even begin discussing their rights.
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People do a lot of hiding behind that Iraq Resolution. Most forget the circumstances of that resolution, and what its real intent was.
It's beside the point. Bush made the decision to invade. And, as far as the context of this thread goes, anyone who supported that, and who calls themselves "pro life," has a little bit of hypocrisy going, imo.
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Correction: The purpose of abortion is to remove something growing inside the woman. I'm willing to bet when a woman goes for an abortion she does not say, "I want you to kill what is inside me." It's more likely they say, "I want it removed." At least any woman I've spoken with who had an abortion. Like any other operation, from gall stones to tumors, the patient wants it removed. They do not consider it as something that is living, in the general sense. It is a clump of cells that are growing which may or may not grow into a baby.
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Hitler said the same about the Jews.
Yeah, Bush made the final decision and with a bipartisan vote, Congress approved it.
The labels pro-life and pro-choice mean absolutely nothing outside the topic of abortion.....nothing....
the labels were created to distinguish each side in the discussion.....the labels have nothing to do with war, peace, death penalty or anything else....
The hypocrisy you imagine is a creation of your stupidity, lack of understanding and an uncontrollable need to create strawmen......because you have nothing else.
You try to create equivalencey where none exists in just about every debate you take part in, it's just something you can't stop yourself from doing.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pro-life?s=t
pro-life
adjective
opposed to legalized abortion; right-to-life.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pro-choice?s=t
pro-choice
adjective
supporting or advocating legalized abortion.
Schooling you is getting to be extremely easy.......get a dictionary and stop embarrassing yourself.
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Of course she doesn't say,""I want you to kill what is inside me.", that even sounds stupid coming from and idiot like you
......Shes much more likely to say "get rid of this fuckin' baby growing inside me".....or "I want this god damn kid gone and I want the taxpayers to pay for it".......
and "I'm only 12 years old, so don't tell my Mom".....on occasion...
But thats all irrelevant....who tf cares what she says.....they all rationalize what they're doing to some degree anyway.....
the FACT REMAINS, she is killing a helpless, living human, in the earliest stages of growth and development.....simple biology.
The Liberals Bless Margret Sanger .....
On blacks, immigrants and indigents:
"...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger,(founder of Planned Parenthood) in Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people.
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What a wonderful rewrite of history that is.
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Are you aware that Darla was addicted to prescription medicine at one time and may still be.