Steelplate
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I agree...if someone truly wants to kill themselves, they will. That still does not negate the idea that universal background checks are a good idea and doesn't restrict law abiding, stable citizens from acquiring firearms.
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I agree...if someone truly wants to kill themselves, they will. That still does not negate the idea that universal background checks are a good idea and doesn't restrict law abiding, stable citizens from acquiring firearms.
Suicide is often spur of the moment...unfortunately.
Steelplate
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I posted an interesting piece on this this am.
Also, changes in health or fortune. These were what I was thinking about...
SJJRSJJS
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Actually the prices are way down, I just saw AR15's for $999.00, against $2500 ten years ago. This arrogant uppity attitude of urin is just like the "Blank One's" used to be, nothing to back it up, just a bunch of sour grape whining and posturing. There will never be another National Gun Ban Law passed, the People do not want it, and that is why gun sales have skyrocketed.
It seems contrary to my personal experience that I am wrong about spur of the moment. After I wrote my post, and saw , it made me wonder and so I went and educated myself and apparently, most suicides are planned. So, very sad.
Steelplate
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True...good point.
Billy the Great Khan
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And? So what if people kill them selves.
Billy the Great Khan
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Why does it have to be based on mental illness?
Nice display of compassion there, Billy.
What if that person was a loved one of yours? Would you still reply "So what?"
SmarterthanYou
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i know my response would be 'you selfish mother fucker!!!!!'
Billy the Great Khan
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I wouldn't even give a damn. The last guy I knew that hung himself, was a friend from high school all the way until I came back from Iraq. Fuck him the useless shit.
Steelplate
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OK...MOST people who kill themselves have a history of DEPRESSION. As Rana said...there are some who lose everything and that brings on an acute and incredibly strong episode of DEPRESSION that results in suicide... thing people jumping off of buildings in the 1929 stock market crash.
There are also pragmatic people who are suffering a terminal illness who don't want to suffer through the pain of the disease and the indignity that always follows.
Of the three basic types of suicide... the people who have diagnosed or undiagnosed DEPRESSION are the most common.
Who cares, its only money.
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The Person You’re Most Likely To Kill With Your Gun Is You
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There are 51,438 licensed retail gun stores in America, more than three times the number of McDonald’s restaurants.
Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins University Center for Gun Policy, told Bloomberg that it’s unclear if gun ownership is linked to violence. But there seems to be a clear link to gun availability, and familiarity with guns and suicide.
A Harvard University study conducted in 2007 found that “States with higher levels of household gun ownership had higher rates of firearm suicide and overall suicide.”
Adolescents who commit suicide by firearm generally use the family gun. Veterans have continually demonstrated high rates of suicide by firearm. Suicide by firearm is, of course, much more effective than other methods.
Gun deaths have been slowly rising since 2000, while deaths related to motor vehicles have plummeted since 2007
Those who oppose further regulation of guns make the argument that guns are necessary for self-defense.
The 2011 study “Guns in the home provide greater health risk than benefit” showed that a gun is more likely to send a family member to the emergency room or the morgue than to ever be used against an intruder.
As the nation considers what can be done about gun violence, the issue of how to protect gun owners from themselves definitely needs to be considered.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-person-youre-most-likely-to-kill-with-your-gun-is-you/
Maybe they should buy another gun so they can protect themselves, and shoot .. themselves, when they try to shoot .. themselves.
Makes about as much sense as anything else in a nation in love with guns.
Whats your point ?...its better then hanging and less messy than stabbing yourself to death, less painful that poison....the results are the same.....
Canceled.2014.1
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LMAO! You have posted plenty that was pure nonsense, so your claim is laughable.
Now, on to the issue at hand.
First of all, if someone is planning a suicide, they will plan based on what they have available. Your big push has been for expanded background checks. Nothing in the impulsive suicide's background would prevent them buying a firearm. And they would certainly not be worried about buying an assault rifle or handgun with a high capacity magazine. A simple, inexpensive shotgun would be just as effective and is on no one's list of guns to be banned. So what I have seen you campaigning for would not have any effect on these suicides.
Next, if a waiting period (or much more severe restrictions on guns in general) were to be enacted, then a firearm would not be part of the suicidal person's options. So they would accomplish it some other way.
The firearm is not the cause of the suicide. Your efforts would better be spent on ways of preventing the person from wanting to die. Once they decide to die, it is very difficult to stop them.
Canceled.2014.1
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Sure, that would stop someone with a felony record, a conviction for domestic abuse or someone who has been institutionalized. But the suicidal person will be cleared to buy a gun rather easily.
Canceled.2014.1
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The act may be, but the depression or circumstances leading up to it rarely are.
And if there is no gun available, I do not believe the stats would change.