Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Allowing all people to come here and occupy your territory and take all your resources and expecting no protection from you government is actually the most assinine idea, however. It's called an invasion, not "good business".
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Allowing all people to come here and occupy your territory and take all your resources and expecting no protection from you government is actually the most assinine idea, however. It's called an invasion, not "good business".
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Of course that's the plan. Make a new lower class of worker, get americans dependant on welfare and free medical care. Blammo, complete control of the old dying middle class, and a new nation of young slaves. What a grand vision of statist euphoria. Why should it not be done?
Epicurus
Reasonable
As far as cold hard economics go: While some undocumented illegal workers do use our public infrastructure without paying taxes, the cost of deporting them would be infinitely greater than the cost of letting non-taxpaying, non-citizens use our infrastructure every year without funding it. While it is unfair, the economics of it dictate that there is more to be gained by letting them stay and granting them citizenship so that they can begin paying taxes.
It is fucking unfair though, and if we could do it for free I would support throwing every one of those motherfuckers out of the country.
It is fucking unfair though, and if we could do it for free I would support throwing every one of those motherfuckers out of the country.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
You're looking at from the point of view of a non-human state, which only sees more taxes to be collected. Your not thinking of the actual humans displaced by their presence, and futures which might have been blighted by the wage depression they bring.
And this bring me to the monetary system.... how it's fraudulent and by it's very creation is a tool of statist control.
Epicurus
Reasonable
No I'm not. Can you not read? My first statement was that I was examining it from a purely economic view.
But then, you're a moron who will read whatever he wants to read from my posts, so I don't really know why I even bothered to respond to you.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
The statist view is similar to the economic view. they both just see larger volume of activity as a net plus, regardless of the effect on the CITIZENS who give you your authority.
No. I'm a genius beating your ass. But now you have your excuse preplanned. You sensed you would be going down hard, didn't you? You've probably just been reading what happens to others who step to me.
FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
Yep, because it's better to waste peoples time digging holes and filling them back in.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
If control is your main goal, yep.
FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
You're the person forcing people to waste.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Whom am I forcing and what are they wasting?
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
You evidently have no concrete understanding of the actual world.
Socrtease
Verified User
AHZ why do you have this as a quote?
I do not place any higher value on the life of an American or of a white person, than I do on the life of a non-American or a brown person. --Darla
Do you think that white people's lives are more valuable than brown? Do you think that an American life is more valuable than an Israeli or Iraqi? That is the gist I get from this. Is this just jingoism wrapped up in an atttempt to razz Darla?
I do not place any higher value on the life of an American or of a white person, than I do on the life of a non-American or a brown person. --Darla
Do you think that white people's lives are more valuable than brown? Do you think that an American life is more valuable than an Israeli or Iraqi? That is the gist I get from this. Is this just jingoism wrapped up in an atttempt to razz Darla?
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
I think that the nation is premised on americans helping other americans.
when a nation becomes a "holding area" for the citizens while the elite do whatever they want for themselves and their own personal profit, things are amiss.
People who make the above statements are, unbeknownst to themselves perhaps, actually filled with self hatred and discriminate against those closest to them, to "prove" they're not racist or nationalist. hence they are incented to do harm to their own people so they can be "enlightened".
In human societies the bonds we form help us to survive. Destroying these bonds of race or nationalism leave the individual naked and alone in a world premised on race categories and national categories. He is subject to domination by those who have embraced their communal ties. Safety in numbers.
And if nations are "outdated" as per compliance with noahide olam ha ba dogma, then the government which sublimates us to corporate interests is equally illegitimate.
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Dustin
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The issue is not the fact that it's illegal but more our own flawed policy as some above have said. Also wasn't this nation founded on immigration? You can't tell me that every person who came to the USA in the 1800's came here legally. Is it more the fact they are coming from one nation, trying to bring their culture into ours?
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Yes. The flawed policy of allowing illegal immigration is the problem.
america is not growing as it was in the 1800's. And growth that does occur is premised on individuals going into debt for a ridiculous lifestyle that only empowers the bank. Immigration must occur ata rate that does not displace the lifestyles of previous citizens to too great a degree. The complete takeover of certain sectors of the economy by illegals drives wages down for everybody, and only benefits corporations. Borders mean something. People died defending this country, specifically with the thought in mind that they were doing for THEIR PROGENY. Opening borders and screwing vast swaths of american people is a betrayal of the people who have died for this nation.
They have not occupied my land or taken my resources. I don't have a right to land or a job unless I am offered the job or buy the land. What side of an imaginary line I was born on does not increase this invalid collectivist claim.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
They have to live somewhere. There are occupying land. There are taking the jobs of other citizens. A job is a resource. You're just selfish.
You're just a socialist idiot. If I own land then no one can occupy it without my consent. If I don't own it I have no right to its use, regardless of what side of an imaginary line I was born on.
And I have no right to a job. My immigrant employer created the job and has all rights to it.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
But they're still occupying land. No way around it.
Most immigrants are NOT creating jobs for others. They're just taking them from citizens.
You have no case.
Im not a socialist you fucking moron.
Maybe we should kill em then, huh?
If they are "occupying" the land legally, i.e., they buy or rent it, then I don't give a fuck on what side of an imaginary line they do it on. It does not concern me.
Again, you have no right to a job. The employer that creates the job has all rights to it.
I don't know what you call some idiot that believes he has a collective right to land or a right to a job created by another, but I call them a socialist/collectivist. You demonstrate quite well here that nAHZis and racists are socialists/collectivists.