Question for level headed dems

anonymoose said:
Forget about Trump for a few minutes.

It’s obvious cities are going to hell in a hand basket. Murder is way up, carjackers have replaced the annoying windshield washers , one mayor won’t even take questions from white reporters.
Cops are either defunded or not allowed to do their jobs like enforce vagrancy laws, even car theft and shoplifting are not responded to by police in my city although that should change with our newly elected mayor.
Disturbing the peace by democrats in New Orleans with the clear intent to disrupt folks eating out is common behavior.
Of course I can give more examples of the lawlessness that’s clearly happening but I think you get the point.

Is this really what you want? This is what you vote to enable.
If so, why? Why do you want to live in hell holes?

And forget whataboutisms like asking why republicans live in trailer parks. Start your own thread on that.
I’m just curious .
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Your initial premise is wrong, reflects Foxitis, therefore your question is inane
 
anonymoose said:
Forget about Trump for a few minutes.

It’s obvious cities are going to hell in a hand basket. Murder is way up, carjackers have replaced the annoying windshield washers , one mayor won’t even take questions from white reporters.
Cops are either defunded or not allowed to do their jobs like enforce vagrancy laws, even car theft and shoplifting are not responded to by police in my city although that should change with our newly elected mayor.
Disturbing the peace by democrats in New Orleans with the clear intent to disrupt folks eating out is common behavior.
Of course I can give more examples of the lawlessness that’s clearly happening but I think you get the point.

Is this really what you want? This is what you vote to enable.
If so, why? Why do you want to live in hell holes?

And forget whataboutisms like asking why republicans live in trailer parks. Start your own thread on that.
I’m just curious .
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...cb057c-4ae5-11eb-839a-cf4ba7b7c48c_story.html

2020 saw an unprecedented spike in homicides from big cities to small towns
According to the FBI data, small cities with fewer than 10,000 residents saw more than a 30 percent increase in killings in the first nine months of this year
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If cities are going to hell in a hand basket then so are small towns. It would appear your premise is a rather obvious example of "begging the question."
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
If cities are going to hell in a hand basket then so are small towns.
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"According to figures compiled by Jeff Asher, an analyst and consultant who studies crime data."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/reoord-spike-murders-2020/2020/12/30/1dcb057c-4ae5-11eb-839a-cf4ba7b7c48c_story.html
 
Legion said:
"According to figures compiled by Jeff Asher, an analyst and consultant who studies crime data."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/reoord-spike-murders-2020/2020/12/30/1dcb057c-4ae5-11eb-839a-cf4ba7b7c48c_story.html
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ahh yes, so it's compiled by an expert. I look forward to your counter statistics.
 
Turgid Member said:
ahh yes, so it's compiled by an expert. I look forward to your counter statistics.
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Is it? By his own admission:

"“The lack of data is a major issue here. I’m a random guy on Twitter who keeps a spreadsheet — that should not be how people see national murder trends,” he said. “We have nowhere near the data we need in real time to solve this.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/reoord-spike-murders-2020/2020/12/30/1dcb057c-4ae5-11eb-839a-cf4ba7b7c48c_story.html

Some "expert".
 
Turgid Member said:
I've given you the source, i've given you my position, the onus is now on you to offer a counter argument. if you do not have one that is fine as well.
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I don't need to prove anything to be skeptical of figures you presented as factual without a verifiable source for the data.
 
Legion said:
Is it? By his own admission:

"“The lack of data is a major issue here. I’m a random guy on Twitter who keeps a spreadsheet — that should not be how people see national murder trends,” he said. “We have nowhere near the data we need in real time to solve this.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/reoord-spike-murders-2020/2020/12/30/1dcb057c-4ae5-11eb-839a-cf4ba7b7c48c_story.html

Some "expert".
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ok then it should be easy for you to blow me out of the water with your counter statistics. I'm ok with that and encourage it. if you can.
 
OP aside, these are a few of my favorites:
1. Bellingham, WA
2. Downtown Boise, ID.
3. Coronado, CA
4. Downtown Portland, Maine
5. Santa Fe, NM
6. Bozeman, Montana
 
Turgid Member said:
ok then it should be easy for you to blow me out of the water with your counter statistics. I'm ok with that and encourage it. if you can.
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I'm not the one who posted figures unsupported by verifiable data or sources.

Apparently you are unfamiliar with the burden of proof concept.
 
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