APP - Racism and the GOP ?

That's because we have a history, where you defended maineman who attacked the children of many posters here. So get the fuck over it.
 
Damn Yankee said:
That's because we have a history, where you defended maineman who attacked the children of many posters here. So get the fuck over it.
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Oh, so something that happened 4 years ago is your justification? Yeah, that sounds about like you.

Then perhaps you should get over the attacks on your family as well.
 
Damn Yankee said:
I never forget or forgive anyone who attacks my family in that way.
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Did I attack your family? You claimed I did not, so you obviously forgot.

And that means, during the several years in which you attacked my wife and my children, you were doing so thinking I had not attacked your family. It was not until I apologized for doing so that you were even aware I had done so. Which means, you have spent several years derailling threads with attacks on my children for stepping in to defend a person from having their personal info released. I did not defend his comments about your family. In fact, I was completely unaware of those comments because, instead of any explanation, you had to be all billy-badass and threaten to kick my ass too.

Your high ground has been a cesspool for a long time, SM. You may as well quite trying to play the victim card. You are just an asshole who resorts to personal attacks on a posters family when you are losing a debate. Its called being petty.
 
10 years ago when I was in high school and learning political groupings for the first time, I was taught that the GOP was losing amongst young and poor voters. I would say that the claim that the GOP is now gaining amongst these two groups within the white segment is quite impressive and unexpected. :cof1:
 
This site is full personal vendettas that go nowhere but last forever, every thread becomes a bunch of childish ad hominem and choir conversations.

"Anti-government sentiment in the United States has risen and fallen in different eras. During the New Deal of Franklin Roosevelt and the Great Society of Lyndon Johnson, U.S. government programs were expanded; Social Security and Medicare came into being, artists and the arts received federal support, the plight of poor American children was addressed on several fronts, and the Southern system of racial apartheid was gradually but dramatically dismantled. It was this last intervention that roused anti-government feeling in many white Americans. They were particularly outraged when Presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy called out the National Guard to enforce racial integration of public educational institutions." Caroline Hamilton http://www.hnn.us/articles/129715.html)
GOP big money is currently attempting to bring back Jim Crow by creating voter registration rules. They have done this since the Blacks changed parties in the sixties and LBJ and MLK initiated voting rights.

GOP has attempted for years to modify or even not support voting rights passed by LBJ.

GOP has constantly used the race card and pretending it is now reversed is on enormous subterfuge. "This was the old Republican playbook, which was well crafted during the Nixon years and named the “Southern Strategy”. In 1964 and 1968, the overtly racist George Wallace ran for President on his own party ticket. Wallace’s run created the basis for a racist coalition against the victories of the civil rights movement. It was this coalition that was adopted by Nixon into the Republican Party, and which became its base for the next 30 years. A combination of poor whites, whose only claim to dignity was that they were legally superior to blacks, and the big business faction threw its support behind the racist populism of Republicans." Vijay Prashad http://www.counterpunch.org/prashad05222008.html

"MYTH: Affirmative action is reverse discrimination, it gives preferential treatment to people of color and women.

FACT: Racism is power plus discrimination. The parameters of discrimination based on race are distinguished by the power dynamics. Reverse racism is not, therefore a reality if people of color are not in positions of power and perpetrating the discrimination. An Urban Institute study shows that less that 100 of 3000 cases could be considered reverse discrimination. Less that six of those cases were deemed by the court to be substantiated." http://www.now.org/issues/affirm/talking.html


"Many have asked why did Johnson take civil rights so seriously and what was his motivation? Lyndon Johnson was motivated by memories of his own poverty ridden childhood and also his strong belief that helping minorities would be of spiritual and economic benefit to all Americans. Johnson also believed that racial discrimination was ironically damaging the economy of his beloved South and that the area would have to abandon its racist attitudes to gain economic prosperity. Despite Johnson’s ambitions he was also a caring and compassionate man." http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Lyndon_Baines_Johnson.htm


A bit of the complexity of racism today, check it and others out. http://www.redroom.com/author/tim-wise/

 
midcan5 said:
This site is full personal vendettas that go nowhere but last forever, every thread becomes a bunch of childish ad hominem and choir conversations.

"Anti-government sentiment in the United States has risen and fallen in different eras. During the New Deal of Franklin Roosevelt and the Great Society of Lyndon Johnson, U.S. government programs were expanded; Social Security and Medicare came into being, artists and the arts received federal support, the plight of poor American children was addressed on several fronts, and the Southern system of racial apartheid was gradually but dramatically dismantled. It was this last intervention that roused anti-government feeling in many white Americans. They were particularly outraged when Presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy called out the National Guard to enforce racial integration of public educational institutions." Caroline Hamilton http://www.hnn.us/articles/129715.html)
GOP big money is currently attempting to bring back Jim Crow by creating voter registration rules. They have done this since the Blacks changed parties in the sixties and LBJ and MLK initiated voting rights.

GOP has attempted for years to modify or even not support voting rights passed by LBJ.

GOP has constantly used the race card and pretending it is now reversed is on enormous subterfuge. "This was the old Republican playbook, which was well crafted during the Nixon years and named the “Southern Strategy”. In 1964 and 1968, the overtly racist George Wallace ran for President on his own party ticket. Wallace’s run created the basis for a racist coalition against the victories of the civil rights movement. It was this coalition that was adopted by Nixon into the Republican Party, and which became its base for the next 30 years. A combination of poor whites, whose only claim to dignity was that they were legally superior to blacks, and the big business faction threw its support behind the racist populism of Republicans." Vijay Prashad http://www.counterpunch.org/prashad05222008.html

"MYTH: Affirmative action is reverse discrimination, it gives preferential treatment to people of color and women.

FACT: Racism is power plus discrimination. The parameters of discrimination based on race are distinguished by the power dynamics. Reverse racism is not, therefore a reality if people of color are not in positions of power and perpetrating the discrimination. An Urban Institute study shows that less that 100 of 3000 cases could be considered reverse discrimination. Less that six of those cases were deemed by the court to be substantiated." http://www.now.org/issues/affirm/talking.html


"Many have asked why did Johnson take civil rights so seriously and what was his motivation? Lyndon Johnson was motivated by memories of his own poverty ridden childhood and also his strong belief that helping minorities would be of spiritual and economic benefit to all Americans. Johnson also believed that racial discrimination was ironically damaging the economy of his beloved South and that the area would have to abandon its racist attitudes to gain economic prosperity. Despite Johnson’s ambitions he was also a caring and compassionate man." http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Lyndon_Baines_Johnson.htm


A bit of the complexity of racism today, check it and others out. http://www.redroom.com/author/tim-wise/

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I agree with your comment about the vendettas and whining on the board. You've shown nothing about how the GOP gaining poorer white voters today has anything to do with racism. You also present racism as only a black and a white thing as if other racial groups don't exist and as if other racial and ethnic groups don't have beef with each other.
 
Racism has gone under the covers, I hear it often in stereotypes but today the chatter is more sophisticated than in the past. Everyone knows a racist but no one is one. I thought the stat below a bit telling, it reminds me of the populism of George Wallace. Some say the tea party is a grass roots group, but the very fact it started after 2008 is telling.

'Are Tea Partiers Just Re-Branded Neo-Confederates' By Bill Egnor

"Lind looked at where the Tea Party managed to elect their favorites to office and from that and the policy they pursue has determined that the genesis of the Tea Party is the Southern Neo-Confederate wing of the Republicans." http://my.firedoglake.com/something...ea-partiers-just-re-branded-neo-confederates/

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midcan5 said:
Racism has gone under the covers, I hear it often in stereotypes but today the chatter is more sophisticated than in the past. Everyone knows a racist but no one is one. I thought the stat below a bit telling, it reminds me of the populism of George Wallace. Some say the tea party is a grass roots group, but the very fact it started after 2008 is telling.

'Are Tea Partiers Just Re-Branded Neo-Confederates' By Bill Egnor

"Lind looked at where the Tea Party managed to elect their favorites to office and from that and the policy they pursue has determined that the genesis of the Tea Party is the Southern Neo-Confederate wing of the Republicans." http://my.firedoglake.com/something...ea-partiers-just-re-branded-neo-confederates/

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You insinuate racism then bring up a chart showing that the TEA Party is South-centric. Come forward with your accusation. Man up.
 
midcan5 said:
Racism has gone under the covers, I hear it often in stereotypes but today the chatter is more sophisticated than in the past. Everyone knows a racist but no one is one. I thought the stat below a bit telling, it reminds me of the populism of George Wallace. Some say the tea party is a grass roots group, but the very fact it started after 2008 is telling.



"Lind looked at where the Tea Party managed to elect their favorites to office and from that and the policy they pursue has determined that the genesis of the Tea Party is the Southern Neo-Confederate wing of the Republicans." http://my.firedoglake.com/something...ea-partiers-just-re-branded-neo-confederates/
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So the fact that they succeeded in getting politicians elected in the south automatically makes them racists? That is a steaming pile of bullshit if I have ever seen one.

This "its from the south so it must be racist" is simply a sign of ignorance.


And just as an FYI, George Wallace has not held office since 1987 and has not drawn a breath since 1998. Using him as an example of racism in the present is bullshit.
 
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