Radical Islam does not kill people, people kill people.

Jarod

Jarod

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This is the refraim of gun owners all over... Guns dont kill people, people kill people.

However after 9-11 we launched a war against Radical Islam. Some portions of that war I supported, some I did not.

The point is that sure these individual bombers are to blame, but so is radical Islam... We need to fight both of these, individuals who commit crimes.. and the tools, including organized radical Islam that promote and allow these terrable crimes.
 
The religion supports violent undertones. I know some very nice muslims, some very hard working ones. That's fine. Some of the very leaders of Islam support violence. They are the faces of Islam. To their people, deafeating them is deafeating Islam.
 
pisskop said:
The religion supports violent undertones. I know some very nice muslims, some very hard working ones. That's fine. Some of the very leaders of Islam support violence. They are the faces of Islam. To their people, deafeating them is deafeating Islam.
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Not all of Islam supports such violence. The very bomber was thrown out of his Mosque for a violent outburst.

Radical Islam should be opposed.... the Allowing of these types to legally have assault rifles should be opposed.
 
People kill in the name of Islam. Do people kill in the name of guns? It's possible but I haven't heard anyone kill someone and say "praise guns".
 
cawacko said:
People kill in the name of Islam. Do people kill in the name of guns? It's possible but I haven't heard anyone kill someone and say "praise guns".
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So that makes the difference? The NRA is pretty close to the idea of allowing killing in the name of guns.
 
Radical Islam is the tool that is being used to get these kids to kill...
 
Jarod said:
Not all of Islam supports such violence. The very bomber was thrown out of his Mosque for a violent outburst.

Radical Islam should be opposed.... the Allowing of these types to legally have assault rifles should be opposed.
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Muslims do a shitty job of controlling their radical arm, though. That makes things super easy for the blood thirsty murderers to operate within Islam as a whole. It's better to just take every necessary precaution with ALL Muslims.
 
Radical Islam is a frame of mind, its not an inantimate object....yours is a stupid anology, par for the course for you.

Radical Islam is closer to a mental illness, not a physical object.....

Just another lame attempt to create a strawman. An argument based on misrepresentation, a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition
 
Granule said:
Muslims do a shitty job of controlling their radical arm, though. That makes things super easy for the blood thirsty murderers to operate within Islam as a whole. It's better to just take every necessary precaution with ALL Muslims.
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Ya, if a branch of some group does something bad, its best to just lump them all together. If more black people deal drugs than white, we should simply assume all black people are drug dealors.... Is that what you are saying?
 
NOVA said:
Radical Islam is a frame of mind, its not an inantimate object....yours is a stupid anology, par for the course for you.

Radical Islam is closer to a mental illness, not a physical object.....

Just another lame attempt to create a strawman. An argument based on misrepresentation, a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition
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Mental illness does not kill people, people kill people.
 
Jarod said:
Ya, if a branch of some group does something bad, its best to just lump them all together. If more black people deal drugs than white, we should simply assume all black people are drug dealors.... Is that what you are saying?
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isn't that what you're doing with gun owners/nra members?
 
Jarod said:
This is the refraim of gun owners all over... Guns dont kill people, people kill people.

However after 9-11 we launched a war against Radical Islam. Some portions of that war I supported, some I did not.

The point is that sure these individual bombers are to blame, but so is radical Islam... We need to fight both of these, individuals who commit crimes.. and the tools, including organized radical Islam that promote and allow these terrable crimes.
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radical islam will inevitably lead to death.

guns don't inevitably lead to anything on their own, as they are an inanimate object, and require a person to do the operation.
 
Skeleton Jelly said:
radical islam will inevitably lead to death.

guns don't inevitably lead to anything on their own, as they are an inanimate object, and require a person to do the operation.
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Thats not true, plenty of people involved in radical Islam do not kill others, it does not always lead to death. Radical Islam does requires a person to operate it... Those involved in Radical Islam belive they are doing the right thing.
 
Those involved in Radical Islam belive they are doing the right thing.
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Does this excuse them? Absolve them of sin/guilt? Does it in any pragmatic way mitigate their deeds or damage?

Does ignorance provide an excuse even?
 
Jarod said:
Ya, if a branch of some group does something bad, its best to just lump them all together. If more black people deal drugs than white, we should simply assume all black people are drug dealors.... Is that what you are saying?
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No, what I'm saying is, look at your surroundings and decide whether it's safe for you to be there. I support segregation; not based on skin tone, but based on ideology. This will preserve liberty and save lives.
 
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Jarod said:
Thats not true, plenty of people involved in radical Islam do not kill others, it does not always lead to death.
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Radical Islam, in it's entire scope, inevitably leads to death. I was not talking on an individual level.

I am seriously going to start putting every single person on ignore that invent things they think I said. Read my fucking words, that's all you need to do.
 
Skeleton Jelly said:
Radical Islam, in it's entire scope, inevitably leads to death. I was not talking on an individual level.

I am seriously going to start putting every single person on ignore that invent things they think I said. Read my fucking words, that's all you need to do.
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Life, in its entire scope, inevitably leads to death.
 
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