Rage on the Right

[Taichiliberal]

claiming that conservatives are becoming more violent toward liberals is a lame argument....it's so lame I think we ought to chain you to a truck bumper and drag you down a gravel road just for raising it......

Actually, the articles are pointing towards EXTREMIST viewpoints, rhetoric and actions increasing in frequency among groups that identify themselves as "conservatives"....of whom seem to get a knee jerk defense/excuse by folks like you when your "legit" conservative punditry and officials mimic the rhetoric or justify such.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Whatever. All you are doing now is showing how far over the cliff you are willing to go in your extremely broad generalizations.



All that you noted was criticism of Obama. What links?



Pot...



Are you kidding? Every birther is now a member of a hate group.

I do not and never have defended their stupid claims. Their argument makes me a bit uncomfortable and slightly suspicious of their motives, but I am not willing to judge them all based on that. You seem to like VERY broad brushes.

Everybody in politics has some association with a nut. We got plenty of elected nuts in both parties. Unfortunately, the nuts are everywhere. But the vast majority are harmless.



Up until this post that is all you did. Your entire argument was they criticized Obama and they are birthers.



The chronology is... I asked "where is the hate" you responded that they criticized Obama for things which they did not criticize Bush. That is wrong. They did criticize the Bush administration. The only thing that changed with Obama is their SPLC hate group label.




I am not arguing any "facts" they presented. I am arguing that guilt by association is how dumbasses form conclusions and using that too label them a "hate group" is counter productive.




Done and done. Their criticisms of the Bush admin are right there on their front page.

Since I am guessing you criticized Bush, does your agreement with them in that make you a hate group?

Bottom line: YOU stated the SPLC was a "hate group"...you said that with NO LOGICAL PROOF. You have stated that the SPLC article has no real bearing... I provided evidence from another legit source that contradicts that

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The FBI source shows "where the hate" is at. The SPLC center shows the correlation with regards to rhetoric. You want to ignore that, be my guess.

I already pointed out that your link was based in tax revolt and NOT originated in the vehement anti-Obama like mantras and diatribes we see today.

Bottom line String...ya got nothing but your denial and opinion.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Ahhh, but one would have to assume that the parishoners of Wrights church were in mental lock step with EVERY LITERAL WORD HE SAID. Clearly, that is not the case...as Obama and OTHER parishoners explained to the media during the neocon feeding frenzy around Wright. So your comparison falls flat, because last time I checked militias and teabagger rallies are not recognized churches with tax exempt status.

Damn. Obama could butcher children and you would absolve him of guilt.

Damn, just when you display a glimpse of intelligence, you ruin it by regurgitating the failed neocon campaign tactic that won Obama the Presidency.

Look around on the threads, genius....Obama's performance thus far is not winning any points with me....but I won't just give a pass to lies and BS because of it.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Prove it! Because just you saying so coupled with a lot of generalized BS won't cut it. They have documented facts to draw conclusions....what do you have?

he has the documented facts WITHOUT the drawn conclusions......which makes him the winner.......

Just as I thought....YOU'VE got nothing.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Ahhh, but one would have to assume that the parishoners of Wrights church were in mental lock step with EVERY LITERAL WORD HE SAID. Clearly, that is not the case...as Obama and OTHER parishoners explained to the media during the neocon feeding frenzy around Wright. So your comparison falls flat, because last time I checked militias and teabagger rallies are not recognized churches with tax exempt status.

One would have to assume that everyone at a "Tea Party" event are in lock step with EVERY LITERAL WORD of the various speakers, or for you guys, anybody holding a sign. That is not the case. The comparison is valid. You are just able to show some reason with Obama that you throw out the window when attempting to smear your opponents.

It has nothing to do with being recognized as a church.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but when one CAREFULLY analyzes the text and content from which the famous Wright quotes come from, they are NOT advocating murder, anarchy or any such thing...they are condemning the actions of a country and people that parallel stories from the Bible.

The Teabaggers are carrying on about socialist takeovers, death policies replacing insurance companies, etc., etc. That the language is parallel if not similar to what you find in more extreme groups is no one's fault but their own. What pisses you off is that you can't deny the language exists, but you dare not try to justify it to closely. So you just throw out distortions and dodges....remember, YOU stated that the SPLC was a hate organization. To date, you can't rationalize or prove or justify that statement. But that is the basis of your attempt to discredit them....which is pretty pathetic.

 

[Damocles]

Un huh...and how many times did you vote for Bush?

Seven. And that was just the first year, just in Florida.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Yea right....coming from the one guy who makes Dixie look like a liberal.

give me time.....I will straighten him out.....

I'm liberal......and I don't think you should feel pissed off at me.......mother fucker.

at least I'm consistent....last week you were pretending to be a moderate....

 

[Canceled2]

Yea right....coming from the one guy who makes Dixie look like a liberal.

I was a registered democrat until I changed parties when I was 24.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but when one CAREFULLY analyzes the text and content from which the famous Wright quotes come from, they are NOT advocating murder, anarchy or any such thing...they are condemning the actions of a country and people that parallel stories from the Bible.

The Teabaggers are carrying on about socialist takeovers, death policies replacing insurance companies, etc., etc. That the language is parallel if not similar to what you find in more extreme groups is no one's fault but their own. What pisses you off is that you can't deny the language exists, but you dare not try to justify it to closely. So you just throw out distortions and dodges....remember, YOU stated that the SPLC was a hate organization. To date, you can't rationalize or prove or justify that statement. But that is the basis of your attempt to discredit them....which is pretty pathetic.

Death panels are real. They are the bureacrats who decide who will get what procedures. If they decide the procedure you need is not covered, or you just don't deserve it because you're not valuable to society, you will die. Hence, death panel. It's an accurate label, though you hate it's candor and accuracy.

 

[Canceled1]

Fact is Obama didn't/doesn't know beans from barley when the bag's open ??



Thats kinda poetic in a way.....

Old saying my Irish grandfather would say.

 

[Canceled1]

Un huh...and how many times did you vote for Bush?

How many did you vote for Clinton?

 

[apple0154]

Death panels are real. They are the bureacrats who decide who will get what procedures. If they decide the procedure you need is not covered, or you just don't deserve it because you're not valuable to society, you will die. Hence, death panel. It's an accurate label, though you hate it's candor and accuracy.

I've always maintained those in their formative years should not watch Soylent Green. It's available here, for free. Perhaps if you watch it now that you're older you'll understand it was fiction. Just a movie. Not true life.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1296155071179146825#

 

[Sammy Jankis]

I've always maintained those in their formative years should not watch Soylent Green. It's available here, for free. Perhaps if you watch it now that you're older you'll understand it was fiction. Just a movie. Not true life.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1296155071179146825#

Soylent green has nothing to with the reality of medical rationing, and the board which will decide our fates. There really will be a death panel.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

I've always maintained those in their formative years should not watch Soylent Green. It's available here, for free. Perhaps if you watch it now that you're older you'll understand it was fiction. Just a movie. Not true life.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1296155071179146825#

You left out the word "YET", as a close to your last sentence.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Damn, just when you display a glimpse of intelligence, you ruin it by regurgitating the failed neocon campaign tactic that won Obama the Presidency.

Look around on the threads, genius....Obama's performance thus far is not winning any points with me....but I won't just give a pass to lies and BS because of it.

you will, and you do.

 

[Timshel]

Bottom line: YOU stated the SPLC was a "hate group"...you said that with NO LOGICAL PROOF. You have stated that the SPLC article has no real bearing... I provided evidence from another legit source that contradicts that

As per their own criteria for defining a hate group. I don't actually consider them a hate group.

Other than your argument that they criticize Obama and did not criticize Bush, which has been shown to be wrong, you have provided absolutely nothing to show that this group, listed 48 times in the SPLC report, is a hate group.

Did the FBI agent talk about this group? If not, it is not relevant.

 

[Timshel]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but when one CAREFULLY analyzes the text and content from which the famous Wright quotes come from, they are NOT advocating murder, anarchy or any such thing...they are condemning the actions of a country and people that parallel stories from the Bible.

And this group has? Cite.

Ayers did not just talk about committing acts of violence.

The Teabaggers are carrying on about socialist takeovers, death policies replacing insurance companies, etc., etc. That the language is parallel if not similar to what you find in more extreme groups is no one's fault but their own. What pisses you off is that you can't deny the language exists, but you dare not try to justify it to closely. So you just throw out distortions and dodges....remember, YOU stated that the SPLC was a hate organization. To date, you can't rationalize or prove or justify that statement. But that is the basis of your attempt to discredit them....which is pretty pathetic.

The left talked about fascist takeover, wars for oil, throwing grandma down a flight of stairs, etc., etc. That their language may parallel, if not similar to, what you find in more extreme hate groups is, likely, coincidence and unavoidable.

For instance, just because nAHZi and I may agree that the Fed sucks does not mean I endorse any of the other ramblings of this lunatic. To pretend that it implies agreement is stupid. The stopped clock adage is appropriate here.

Another example, the SPCA often sounds like PETA or even ALF, but they are clearly not the same.

What pisses me off is your complete inconsistency and desire to silence all criticism of Obama and the Dems with ridiculous smears. If you want to apply these same standards to the left at least you would be consistent, but I would still criticize that. Again, I think this distracts attention from the REAL hate groups.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

And this group has? Cite.

Ayers did not just talk about committing acts of violence.



The left talked about fascist takeover, wars for oil, throwing grandma down a flight of stairs, etc., etc. That their language may parallel, if not similar to, what you find in more extreme hate groups is, likely, coincidence and unavoidable.

For instance, just because nAHZi and I may agree that the Fed sucks does not mean I endorse any of the other ramblings of this lunatic. To pretend that it implies agreement is stupid. The stopped clock adage is appropriate here.

Another example, the SPCA often sounds like PETA or even ALF, but they are clearly not the same.

What pisses me off is your complete inconsistency and desire to silence all criticism of Obama and the Dems with ridiculous smears. If you want to apply these same standards to the left at least you would be consistent, but I would still criticize that. Again, I think this distracts attention from the REAL hate groups.

What do I believe that you consider to be lunacy?

 

[Timshel]

Another example, there used to be (probably still out there) a quiz asking people to guess who was responsible for a comment, the Unabomber or Al Gore. Though, they share some of the same concerns, the comparison is stupid. Al Gore is not a Luddite and to argue that he is to blame for that nut job is irresponsible.

 

[Timshel]

What do I believe that you consider to be lunacy?

Outside of your concerns about the Fed and fiat currency (even on that we differ somewhat) just about everything.