Raise The Minimum Wage!

Bijou said:
Indeed. 76.6% of those earning minimum wage are over 20.
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I know. He is still dancing around like the devil with his feet on fire, but the it's a fact, and it's not in dispute. It cracks me up. I keep laughing. He's now linking to the very site I linked to to prove...that 3/4's of minimum wage workers are over 20 years of age. LMAO

Poor Lovey.
 
Darla said:
It matters to me. "Most people making minimum wage are children" is a lie disseminated by the right wing. If it didn't matter, they wouldn't bother with that. It matters alright.
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Let's clear this up. First of all, if someone is arguing there are children working in violation of child labor laws, please let the authorities know. We don't generally employ children in America. When a child becomes a teenager, and is about to enter into adulthood, we typically refer to them as "young adults" and perhaps that is more out of a sense of respect to them, but for sake of discussion, that is what we call them. This demographic is 16-24 years in age, and comprises mostly high school and college age "young adults." When 51.8% of the people who earn minimum wage fall into the 16-24 year age demographic, we can say that the majority of MW earners are young adults. Not children, because again, children don't work.

As for your thesis, I have read plenty of studies which showed that raising the minimum wage actually creates jobs because people with very low incomes are most likely to spend money as soon as they get it. This actually helps the economy. I have never seen a reputable study on how or whether it impacts inflation, but the "lets pay them nothing so no one has any money and there's no inflation" is not really an economic view I'm sympathetic to or believe is good for the country.
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Well, I won't argue with your study, but if it does increase jobs, those have to be paid for with something also. Where does the extra money come from? I've never said "pay them nothing" and not sure where you heard anyone say that. But increasing the minimum wage will have to increase prices of everything, there is no other real option, or at least no better option. The other two are, cutting jobs and printing more currency. None of these options will ultimately benefit society, and we know this because they haven't in the 40 years we've been trying it. We still have the exact same identical problem and situation, and you people clamoring for more of the same solution.

And here's the thing that really amazes me... If there really ARE examples of poor families trying to support themselves on the minimum wage, how is an extra crumb on the table going to help them, really? Aren't these 'examples' in the sort of dire straits that requires more than a $20-per-week token of our sympathy? Like maybe some kind of job training program or something? Oh wait... we already are providing that! Silly me!
 
Darla said:
I know. He is still dancing around like the devil with his feet on fire, but the it's a fact, and it's not in dispute. It cracks me up. I keep laughing. He's now linking to the very site I linked to to prove...that 3/4's of minimum wage workers are over 20 years of age. LMAO

Poor Lovey.
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You do realize that the SAME FUCKING SITE proves what PMP stated as well? That is your problem Darla, you are too fucking stupid to realize there is more than one piece of data on that chart.
 
Darla said:
I know. He is still dancing around like the devil with his feet on fire, but the it's a fact, and it's not in dispute. It cracks me up. I keep laughing. He's now linking to the very site I linked to to prove...that 3/4's of minimum wage workers are over 20 years of age. LMAO

Poor Lovey.
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Lovey needs a mintjulep, STAT! :D
 
I expect the reason the board's Red Hat Society knows more about Gilligan's Island than they do about politics is that it reflects how much time they spend on both.......
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is this Darla, Bijou, Rana and Howie?....
 
Superfreak said:
and 53.2% are under 25... just as PMP stated... the majority.
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Nope he stated the majority are "children".

I think you are well aware of what most people would say about that. But that's not relevant. What is relevant is that as I said, 3/4's of people earning minimum wage are over 20 years of age, and people need to know that. It's a fact, and it is not in dispute....your childish insistence on 25 year olds being children notwithstanding. :)

Thanks again SF! I couldn't have done it without you! Well, I could have because you know, 3/4's of those earning minimum wage are over 20 years of age and that is a fact and it is not in dispute.

But you did make it more fun with all of your antics lovey!

:) Big Grin.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
the majority of minimum wage earners are high school and college students who have not yet entered the workforce as a way to earn a living.....when not occupying Wall Street, sleeping or partying they spend their time away from class working in fast food joints.....
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You may as well quit... Darla is not smart enough to realize that those in their early 20s are still in college. She is too dishonest to ever admit that she is wrong. She is a fucking hack.
 
Dixie said:
Let's clear this up. First of all, if someone is arguing there are children working in violation of child labor laws, please let the authorities know. We don't generally employ children in America. When a child becomes a teenager, and is about to enter into adulthood, we typically refer to them as "young adults" and perhaps that is more out of a sense of respect to them, but for sake of discussion, that is what we call them. This demographic is 16-24 years in age, and comprises mostly high school and college age "young adults." When 51.8% of the people who earn minimum wage fall into the 16-24 year age demographic, we can say that the majority of MW earners are young adults. Not children, because again, children don't work.
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Well look at this! Dixie showing more intelligence and logic skills than Superfreak! seriously, this is breaking news, and should come as a huge blow to SF who has always used his contempt for Dixie to burnish his creds.

Yes, 51.8 % a very slight majority are young adults, and 48.2% are older adults. I found it disheartening that nearly 200k senior citizens are working for minimum wage. :( It bothers me because often minimum wage jobs involve significant labor.
 
Darla said:
Nope he stated the majority are "children".
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and again you fucking retard... they ARE children. He also stated multiple times that by children he was referring to high school and college kids. Which again is the same fucking stat that shows on the bls link. that over 53% are under 25. Which puts them in high school and college... just like he stated. You do realize we can still see his old posts on the subject... don't you?

You do realize that we have proven to you time and again that the use of the word 'children' is common for those that age? (under 25)

Or are you going to continue to pretend it is not common because it doesn't fit into your little temper tantrum?

I think you are well aware of what most people would say about that.
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Yes, most people would say the same about kids that age. The government just did. Yet you are not throwing a fit that the ACA called 26 and under 'children'. Why not Darla? Why the double standard? Why is his use of the word so fucking horrendous, yet you don't cry at all about Obamas admin doing the same thing? Except of course Obama's ACA actually called 25 and 26 year olds 'children' too. OMG OMG OMG... you idiot.

But that's not relevant. What is relevant is that as I said, 3/4's of people earning minimum wage are over 20 years of age, and people need to know that. It's a fact, and it is not in dispute....your childish insistence on 25 year olds being children notwithstanding.
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Yeah Darla, we understand that your stat is ALSO correct. But thanks for pointing out your stupidity in the above. Your entire problem is you don't like the fact that he referred to 20-24 year olds as children. Yet again, when the Obama admin does the same thing... where is your outcry about Obama being childish?

Nothing Darla? Too much of a dishonest hack to admit there is nothing wrong with his use of the word?

Fucking idiot.
 
Dixie said:
Well, I won't argue with your study, but if it does increase jobs, those have to be paid for with something also. Where does the extra money come from? I've never said "pay them nothing" and not sure where you heard anyone say that. But increasing the minimum wage will have to increase prices of everything, there is no other real option, or at least no better option. The other two are, cutting jobs and printing more currency. None of these options will ultimately benefit society, and we know this because they haven't in the 40 years we've been trying it. We still have the exact same identical problem and situation, and you people clamoring for more of the same solution.

And here's the thing that really amazes me... If there really ARE examples of poor families trying to support themselves on the minimum wage, how is an extra crumb on the table going to help them, really? Aren't these 'examples' in the sort of dire straits that requires more than a $20-per-week token of our sympathy? Like maybe some kind of job training program or something? Oh wait... we already are providing that! Silly me!
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I actually advocate a living wage, but living in the real world have to settle for, possibly, a raise of the minimum wage. From what I have discerned, raising the minimum wage really has a small impact on inflation. And I don't think the impact on economic activity is that much larger. I think it's pretty small all around, so I don't see the downside. It improves people's lives. Marginally? Yeah, unless we moved to a living wage any raise in the minimum wage isn't going to be big enough to make huge changes in someone's life.

I would love to spend more money on job training!
 
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