Rand Paul-Typical lying, two-faced Rightie

[PostmodernProphet]

what do you think ear marks are?

expenditures added to an unrelated bill to solicit the support of lawmakers who otherwise would not vote for it......(note: see related topics; bribery, extortion, kickback)

 

[PostmodernProphet]

The very first sentence of Nigel's first link:


Rand Paul has made a ban on wasteful earmark spending in Washington D.C. one of the key points of his campaign.

I don't expect anything like proof placed right under your nose to get you to admit I was right...but one never knows.

fine, that's position number one.....the thread implies a contrary position number two.....what is it?....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

but that he will fight for Kentucky's share of earmarks and federal pork, as long as it's doled out transparently at the committee level and not parachuted in in the dead of night. "I will advocate for Kentucky's interests"


I should know how this works but I don't. If you represent a district or state and you want money for let's say a freeway project if you put that request into an existing bill that would be pork correct? How would you make that request so it is not considered pork?

except the quote itself said nothing about fighting for a share of earmarks.....that came from the Huffpost author......don't fall into this fool's trap......

 

[Bonestorm]

i've been waiting for this since the OP opened....its clear zappy and onceler care more for ad homs than discussing the thread

I posted quotes from his fucking campaign site. The information is readily accessible.

 

[Onceler]

It's really not hard to google; the internet is actually pretty abuzz w/ how quickly he has backtracked, but here's his actual campaign site:

http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/02/rands-contagious-conservatism/

Let the parsing continue...

 

[PostmodernProphet]

It's really not hard to google; the internet is actually pretty abuzz w/ how quickly he has backtracked, but here's his actual campaign site:

http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/02/rands-contagious-conservatism/

Let the parsing continue...

yes, we all know he is opposed to earmarks.....quotes to support that are not difficult to find.......so where is the contradiction, please......

 

[Onceler]

so where is the contradiction, please......

For God's sake....seriously?

He supported DeMint's plan 100%; it's there in black & white.

Are you on the GOP payroll or something? Call hypocrisy when you see it. Why do you care about a single Congressman so much that you feel you have to defend this to the teeth?

 

[zappasguitar]

For God's sake....seriously?

He supported DeMint's plan 100%; it's there in black & white.

Are you on the GOP payroll or something? Call hypocrisy when you see it. Why do you care about a single Congressman so much that you feel you have to defend this to the teeth?

Because to admit as much is tantamount to admitting I WAS RIGHT!

And you will NEVER SEE these partisan hacks admit that to one another.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

I posted quotes from his fucking campaign site. The information is readily accessible.

from his campaign site:

Rand Paul has made a ban on wasteful earmark spending in Washington D.C. one of the key points of his campaign. He has supported Sen. Jim DeMint’s vocal support for an earmark ban and he supports news that House Democrats are even coming around on the idea of a partial ban.

http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/03/earmark-ban-coming/

its clear he is talking about wasteful earmarks....and if he is now against the year long earmark ban that demint supported and he supported...then yes, that is a flip flop....though i wonder what he was thinking...was he thinking all kentucky's interests or just wasteful spending which has been the corner of his campaign and nothing he has said to date is a flip flop on that

however, that is NOT a lie....still waiting for the lie....see how easy that is....because zappy will certaintly never say obama lied on his campaign flip flops....

 

[Bonestorm]

from his campaign site:

Rand Paul has made a ban on wasteful earmark spending in Washington D.C. one of the key points of his campaign. He has supported Sen. Jim DeMint’s vocal support for an earmark ban and he supports news that House Democrats are even coming around on the idea of a partial ban.

http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/03/earmark-ban-coming/

its clear he is talking about wasteful earmarks....and if he is now against the year long earmark ban that demint supported and he supported...then yes, that is a flip flop....though i wonder what he was thinking...was he thinking all kentucky's interests or just wasteful spending which has been the corner of his campaign and nothing he has said to date is a flip flop on that

however, that is NOT a lie....still waiting for the lie....see how easy that is....because zappy will certaintly never say obama lied on his campaign flip flops....

He has taken a no earmark pledge and strongly opposes more earmarked, pork barrel spending schemes.

http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/03/strange-ideas-cut-spending/

 

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On ABC's This Week, host Christiane Amanpour pushed Paul on the ways he'd cut spending. When she asked about earmarks, Paul declared "no more earmarks":
AMANPOUR: And what about earmarks? Would you say no to earmarks?

PAUL: No -- no more earmarks.

AMANPOUR: No more? Not even in your state?

PAUL: No. No. But I do tell people within Kentucky is I say, look, I will argue within the committee process for things that are good for Kentucky that they want and also within the context of a balanced budget.

^^after the WSJ interview ^^

seems he cleared this one up....that was easy....LOL

 

[Onceler]

from his campaign site:

Rand Paul has made a ban on wasteful earmark spending in Washington D.C. one of the key points of his campaign. He has supported Sen. Jim DeMint’s vocal support for an earmark ban and he supports news that House Democrats are even coming around on the idea of a partial ban.

http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/03/earmark-ban-coming/

its clear he is talking about wasteful earmarks....and if he is now against the year long earmark ban that demint supported and he supported...then yes, that is a flip flop....though i wonder what he was thinking...was he thinking all kentucky's interests or just wasteful spending which has been the corner of his campaign and nothing he has said to date is a flip flop on that

however, that is NOT a lie....still waiting for the lie....see how easy that is....because zappy will certaintly never say obama lied on his campaign flip flops....

This is absolutely shameless parsing.

As flip-flops go, it is basically immediate; the election was just last week. As I said before, that makes the campaign pledge dishonest at BEST. If you don't want to call it a "lie" to protect the precious Republican, that's fine.

 

[Bonestorm]

On ABC's This Week, host Christiane Amanpour pushed Paul on the ways he'd cut spending. When she asked about earmarks, Paul declared "no more earmarks":
AMANPOUR: And what about earmarks? Would you say no to earmarks?

PAUL: No -- no more earmarks.

AMANPOUR: No more? Not even in your state?

PAUL: No. No. But I do tell people within Kentucky is I say, look, I will argue within the committee process for things that are good for Kentucky that they want and also within the context of a balanced budget.

^^after the WSJ interview ^^

seems he cleared this one up....that was easy....LOL

Yes, it's very clear. No earmarks, except those for Kentucky, which is what the WSJ reported.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Yes, it's very clear. No earmarks, except those for Kentucky, which is what the WSJ reported.

they weren't his words...sorry, but fail

he is clear against earmarks, but will look to his state's interests...i see no contradiction, especially since it will all be within the budget, open and not passed in secret....

this thread is one huge lefty fail

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

onceler at around 10am this morning

I suppose it's more accurate to call it a flip-flop, though such a quick turnabout on a campaign promise does make the promise dishonest at best.

And he's not the only one....

onceler after a few drinks this afternoon....

This is absolutely shameless parsing.

As flip-flops go, it is basically immediate; the election was just last week. As I said before, that makes the campaign pledge dishonest at BEST. If you don't want to call it a "lie" to protect the precious Republican, that's fine.

LOL....this morning it is "more accurate to call it a flip flop" and this afternoon its shameless parsing to say its a flip flop

and you question my sanity....lmao

 

[Onceler]

onceler at around 10am this morning



onceler after a few drinks this afternoon....




LOL....this morning it is "more accurate to call it a flip flop" and this afternoon its shameless parsing to say its a flip flop

and you question my sanity....lmao

Boy, you really have to cherrypick where to bold to make that a "contradiction." In both, I said it was "dishonest at best." Some people definitely call that a lie.

What desperation. I honestly feel a little bad for you; I can't imagine feeling so beholden to a political party that I'd go to the mat like this for a single legislator....

Sad.

 

[Bonestorm]

they weren't his words...sorry, but fail

he is clear against earmarks, but will look to his state's interests...i see no contradiction, especially since it will all be within the budget, open and not passed in secret....

this thread is one huge lefty fail

Actually, those were his words. He wants to have it both ways. You can't one the one hand say no earmarks and on the other say you will ensure that funding for Kentucky will be maintained. There is no way to ensure funding for Kentucky projects without earmarks.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Actually, those were his words. He wants to have it both ways. You can't one the one hand say no earmarks and on the other say you will ensure that funding for Kentucky will be maintained. There is no way to ensure funding for Kentucky projects without earmarks.

please cite his exact words

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Boy, you really have to cherrypick where to bold to make that a "contradiction." In both, I said it was "dishonest at best." Some people definitely call that a lie.

What desperation. I honestly feel a little bad for you; I can't imagine feeling so beholden to a political party that I'd go to the mat like this for a single legislator....

Sad.

so you lied when you said it was more accurate to call it a flip flop....LOL

its either a flip flop or it isn't.....you said it was, your opinion after that has no bearing on YOU calling it a flip flop and YOU later whining when i said it was flip flop

more intellectual dishonesty or possibly neurotic insanity from onceler

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

and once again, the day after the wsj interview his exact words:

On ABC's This Week, host Christiane Amanpour pushed Paul on the ways he'd cut spending. When she asked about earmarks, Paul declared "no more earmarks":
AMANPOUR: And what about earmarks? Would you say no to earmarks?

PAUL: No -- no more earmarks.

AMANPOUR: No more? Not even in your state?

PAUL: No. No. But I do tell people within Kentucky is I say, look, I will argue within the committee process for things that are good for Kentucky that they want and also within the context of a balanced budget.