SmarterthanYou
rebel
I am tempted to repeat one of your posts and ask for definitive proof that the japanese used every single one of those on every single prisoner, however, the mere fact that it's waterboarding, i.e., pouring water on the upturned face of a restrained human being so as to induce the sensation of drowning, should be enough to just consider it torture. Sadly, for those more interested in security instead of liberty, are quite willing to allow for their government to torture alleged terrorists while comfortably believing that it isn't torture.No, I am saying because the Japanese used saltwater which in and of istelf can cause death, but was still used; jumping on the stomache and inducing vomiting can cause death, but was still used; because not timing the use or measuring the amount of the water can cause death and or brain damage, but was still used; that this is not close or equal to the careful use of watreboarding by American interrogators where none of these techniques were applied...where death or brain damage was ever a possibility, that they are in fact NOT equal.
Are you saying they are? If so how so?
The problem is that you cannot answer the question. Are the 3 men Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, Abu Zubayda and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri terrorists? Have you or are you, planning on commiting acts of murder against civillians for political reasons?
once again, you're sidestepping the issue. I understand that you must keep it on that track to reconcile torture as a legal interrogation method, in your mind, but it doesn't detract from the issue.
The real issue is 'is it legal and justifiable to torture another human being?' It doesn't get any simpler than that. no traps, no tricks, just a simple question.