Religions are mostly wrong

Into the Night said:
What is irrational about atheism??
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It's a belief like theism. There's no proof their assumptions are correct. The only rational people are agnostics; those who admit there is no evidence of anything beyond the physical.

That said, even though a belief is irrational, that doesn't make it bad.
 
Truth Detector said:
Without religion to keep humans in check, we would still be celebrating watching humans thrown to the lions and gladiator fights to the death in arenas halfwit.

Of course, leftist maggots want to go back to the dark ages with their windmills and solar projects and by destroying faith and families.

All humans of good conscience and intelligence reject what leftist maggots have to offer. It is malaise, failure and mediocrity; you being the best example of all three.
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What an utter load of shit.
 
Truth Detector said:
There is a lot you will never understand. Like, how did you become such a repugnant moron on steroids. The world does not care what low IQ lying leftist maggots think. They don't care if low IQ lying leftist maggots died. One less low IQ lying leftist maggot can't be all that bad.
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when this country denounces and sends your fuhrer packing and both houses of congress are run by democrats I hope shitheads like you leave.
 
BartenderElite said:
I generally have only heard conservatives talk this way. That without religion, society would devolve - because we need it to give us guidance on what is right & wrong, good & evil.

I know what's right & wrong. Most do. It actually concerns me that some NEED religion to define those things.

But regardless, even if religion is needed somehow (which I would disagree with) - that says nothing about whether a religion is valid, or iwhether the texts that it is based on are correct. It's a different argument entirely. From what you seem to be arguing, a religion could be totally fabricated and wrong - but it doesn't matter, because it gives the people a moral guide.
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All belief in some "god" are man's feeble attempt to explain what he does not understand. I think it is a fear of death and a world without them that they cannot fathom. Believing that death is not the end and there is an afterlife is the perfect excuse to believe. If that is what it takes to live your life and not be afraid then so be it, I'm not against the practice.

Personally I'm not terribly fond of this heaven and hell scenario because hell sounds too warm for me and I don't think I will find anyone I know in heaven.:whoa:
 
Port Tack said:
when this country denounces and sends your fuhrer packing and both houses of congress are run by democrats I hope shitheads like you leave.
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TBH, I strongly doubt Trump Dummy and several other JPP MAGAts have the assets to leave much less the keys to the front door of their facility.
 
Truth Detector said:
You've got it backwards, before religion, we were barbarians who thought throwing Christians and slaves into an arena with lions was entertaining. Imagine a society that has no guilt, no beliefs of hell or heaven and therefore, can act anyway its elites think.



Knowing what's right and wrong is not inherent, it is taught. So where did you get this notion of what is right and what is wrong?



It's not that religion is "needed", but rather, necessary for civilized societies.
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To think that thanks to religion we are all not barbarians is just about the fucking stupidest shit you have posted. Throughout history it is religion that has caused more death and misery than just about anything.
 
Truth Detector said:
You've got it backwards, before religion, we were barbarians who thought throwing Christians and slaves into an arena with lions was entertaining. ...
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Never heard of the Spanish Inquisition, the burning of Joan of Arc, the hanging of witches in Salem, the Troubles in Ireland and hundreds of other examples of Christians murdering people in the name of religion.
 
Recently, I’ve been listening to and reading material from numerous Bible scholars. Who the authors of the NT were, when and where they wrote, what they said. Consistencies and contradictions, etc. From Jesus’ birth to his death. Interesting stuff.

Turns out, it’s almost, if not completely, all myth. Stories from people who never met him, saw him, heard him, or even speak his language. Not a one. Some were written to satisfy prophecies in the OT. Some were written to satisfy their then-current theological needs. Nevertheless, myths. Concoctions. From virgin birth to miracles to resurrection. All bullshit.

Interesting to also note how many Biblical scholars, once devout, evangelical types, completely abandoned Christianity once they actually dove into the details of the NT rather than blindly accepting it.
 
domer76 said:
Recently, I’ve been listening to and reading material from numerous Bible scholars. Who the authors of the NT were, when and where they wrote, what they said. Consistencies and contradictions, etc. From Jesus’ birth to his death. Interesting stuff.

Turns out, it’s almost, if not completely, all myth. Stories from people who never met him, saw him, heard him, or even speak his language. Not a one. Some were written to satisfy prophecies in the OT. Some were written to satisfy their then-current theological needs. Nevertheless, myths. Concoctions. From virgin birth to miracles to resurrection. All bullshit.

Interesting to also note how many Biblical scholars, once devout, evangelical types, completely abandoned Christianity once they actually dove into the details of the NT rather than blindly accepting it.
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Nice opinion piece. :thup:

Disagreed that it's all myth simply by the ripple in history the existence of Jesus caused. Agreed the virgin birth was added post-mortem. Considering the times, I also understand how ignorant, but intelligent people can mistake some natural events, coincidence and the like for "magic" or "miracles".

I have no doubt Jesus existed and that his time in Jerusalem inspired a spiritual movement that grew to dominate the West. Aside from that, I'm skeptical.

My wife is a strong Christian and a fervent believer in the power of prayer and believes miracles happen. I believe in a Watchmaker God. God created the Universe and all the rules within it. Altering those rules for special people would be cheating, IMO. I believe that most of us are born with Free Will, exceptions being retardation and mental illness. If there are miracles, then it's inside each of us by virtue of our choices and willingness to help others. Prayer = meditation and psych studies have proved the power of positive thinking. If a person wants to believe praying to God will give them the strength to survive a situation, I won't dissuade them since the result is the same as a person who is a strong believer in the power of positive thinking. If people want to believe in religion, I support their right to do so.

The only time I will question religion is when some asshole, be they a Hare Krishna, a Bible-thumper, atheist or anyone else, harasses me about it.

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Doc Dutch said:
It's a belief like theism.
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Theism is not atheism, Sock. It is not a belief.
Doc Dutch said:
There's no proof their assumptions are correct.
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Atheism is not an assumption.
Doc Dutch said:
The only rational people are agnostics; those who admit there is no evidence of anything beyond the physical.
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Not the meaning of agnostic, Sock.
Doc Dutch said:
That said, even though a belief is irrational, that doesn't make it bad.
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Atheism is not a belief.
 
Port Tack said:
All belief in some "god" are man's feeble attempt to explain what he does not understand. I think it is a fear of death and a world without them that they cannot fathom. Believing that death is not the end and there is an afterlife is the perfect excuse to believe. If that is what it takes to live your life and not be afraid then so be it, I'm not against the practice.

Personally I'm not terribly fond of this heaven and hell scenario because hell sounds too warm for me and I don't think I will find anyone I know in heaven.:whoa:
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So you are a member of the Church of No God. That is your belief.
 
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