remember that political compass ,heres the candidates

The "Libertarian left" Gandhi preached is hardly in line with the American Libertarianism. The very notion is absurd. It's hard for me to imagine Gandhi speaking about removing services to the poor.
 
ib1yysguy said:
The "Libertarian left" Gandhi preached is hardly in line with the American Libertarianism. The very notion is absurd. It's hard for me to imagine Gandhi speaking about removing services to the poor.
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You don't remember his, now infamous, speech, often compared to the Sermon on the Mount, called "No Whining; Up From Your BootStraps"?

I'm surprised.
 
ib1yysguy said:
The "Libertarian left" Gandhi preached is hardly in line with the American Libertarianism. The very notion is absurd. It's hard for me to imagine Gandhi speaking about removing services to the poor.
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Which doesn't change that "this scale" says that Ghandi is Libertarian-Left and you refuse to admit an embarrassing mistake. If I were you I'd control the embarrassment by simply admitting to it and disagreeing with the scale rather than promoting the idea that you can't read the thing at all.

The whole premise behind the scale is that "left-right" is not enough to determine a political stance, it makes it larger with four quadrants. Some can be authoritarian Left. Like Stalin. Others authoritarian right, and so forth.

It would also be hard to imagine Ghandi promoting total control by the government.
 
Its not a mistake. American Libertarianism is NOT on the Libertarian-Left of this scale. You guys are on the Libertarian Right, and that much is completely obvious. The original point is valid - that you guys often quote Gandhi when you share distinctly different politics.
 
Damocles said:
Which doesn't change that "this scale" says that Ghandi is Libertarian-Left and you refuse to admit an embarrassing mistake. If I were you I'd control the embarrassment by simply admitting to it and disagreeing with the scale rather than promoting the idea that you can't read the thing at all.

The whole premise behind the scale is that "left-right" is not enough to determine a political stance, it makes it larger with four quadrants. Some can be authoritarian Left. Like Stalin. Others authoritarian right, and so forth.

It would also be hard to imagine Ghandi promoting total control by the government.
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So it's a libertarian scale.

I can't go to it, i'm blocked, it comes up "social networking" site. Before you tell me why don't I go read it and then comment, blah.
 
ib1yysguy said:
Its not a mistake. American Libertarianism is NOT on the Libertarian-Left of this scale. You guys are on the Libertarian Right, and that much is completely obvious. The original point is valid - that you guys often quote Gandhi when you share distinctly different politics.
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LOL. Yet your point earlier was that "this scale" didn't say that. It turns out it does. Admit it and get past it, you are embarrassing yourself.
 
I have not embarrassed myself. The fact that Libertarians tear off their clothes and immediately engage in a circle jerk every time you suggest Ron Paul's politics is flawed or challenge the Libertarian ideology doesn't win arguments.

The scale does not suggest Gandhi shares politics with American Libertarians. Your insinuation that he falls on the Libertarian side of the scale and, ergo, my original point was invalid is either intellectually dishonest or stupid. Or maybe both.
 
ib1yysguy said:
Not according to this scale. You guys fall under Neo-Liberalism - at the exact opposite side of the scale (which makes sense since gandhi is on the socialist end and you guys are almost anarchists).
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Here you say that "this scale" doesn't say that Ghandi is Libertarian-Left politically.

ib1yysguy said:
Its not a mistake. American Libertarianism is NOT on the Libertarian-Left of this scale. You guys are on the Libertarian Right, and that much is completely obvious. The original point is valid - that you guys often quote Gandhi when you share distinctly different politics.
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Here you attempt to spin out of your mistake by attempting to confuse the issue between left/right. Nobody says that Ghandi wanted exactly the same things as the US Libertarian party which is obviously Libertarian-Right. They quote that one quote because it expresses something that they believe.
 
Libertarian Right? I fell only one point to the Right, and at times I fall to the left, but always Libertarian on these scales. It depends on what questions are asked.
 
DigitalDave said:
Libertarian Right? I fell only one point to the Right, and at times I fall to the left, but always Libertarian on these scales. It depends on what questions are asked.
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They want to stuff all libertarians into one box. The Libertarian Party is clearly controlled at this time by the Libertarian-right, but that doesn't mean the Libertarian-left doesn't exist.
 
Not only that but Gandhi was about living a simple life, not about taking governement handouts.

"His simplicity began by renouncing the western lifestyle he was leading in South Africa. He called it "reducing himself to zero," which entailed giving up unnecessary expenditure, embracing a simple lifestyle and washing his own clothes. On one occasion he returned the gifts bestowed to him from the natals for his diligent service to the community."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi#Freedom_and_partition_of_India

I don't see how his idea of simplicity argues for Liberalism OR Libertarianism.
 
Damocles said:
Go directly to the site of: http://www.politicalcompass.org/

The original link, links to some guy's blog on one of those sites...
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I don't know if the chart is right, or what if any bias it holds, but I took it and I got

Economic Left/Right: -7.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.67

Whatever in hell that means. I don't know much about Ghandi, it's come up before. I always say I have to learn more about him, but I never get around to it.
 
But somehow it is wrong to deeply respect a man who attempted to non-violently revolt against a government, and live his life free and ON HIS OWN.
 
DigitalDave said:
Not only that but Gandhi was about living a simple life, not about taking governement handouts.

"His simplicity began by renouncing the western lifestyle he was leading in South Africa. He called it "reducing himself to zero," which entailed giving up unnecessary expenditure, embracing a simple lifestyle and washing his own clothes. On one occasion he returned the gifts bestowed to him from the natals for his diligent service to the community."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi#Freedom_and_partition_of_India

I don't see how his idea of simplicity argues for Liberalism OR Libertarianism.
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Really? What you just posted could be a passage about a 60's hippie.
 
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