Removal unlikely by traitors and cowards-analysis included

Frank Apisa said:
Listen, TD...your side has been shouting for months now that a vote for impeachment is the death knell for the Democratic Party.
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I have? Show me one post where I made this claim. :rolleyes:

I predicted that Trump will win re-election in 2020 long before the clowns in the Party of the Jackass started this impeachment HOAX. Take the bet Frank! https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...berals-are-strongly-encouraged-to-participate

Frank Apisa said:
I personally do not see it as a "death knell"...but I see the move as potentially a politically damaging one.
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You would be correct on that statement.

Frank Apisa said:
So in my opinion, they are being brave.
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There is nothing "brave" about a partisan one sided vote to impeach with the weakest of claims and evidence. It's downright stupid and ignorant. ;)

Frank Apisa said:
A hell of a lot more brave than the cowards continuing to defend Trump.
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It takes a hell of a lot more courage to go against the PHONY media and the FALSE narratives they promote. But heck, what would leftists know about courage, right? ;)
 
Frank Apisa said:
I'm a registered Independent.

The "obstruction of Congress" charge is so firm, a defense lawyer would probably suggest a guilty plea.
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Not true. No one has to adhere to congressional subpoenas. You can refuse to cooperate and that’s perfectly legal. It’s then up to the courts to decide if you have to or not.
 
Micawber said:
It's a case of "we must do this" consequences be damned, to show the world somebody here cares that we are forced to live in an autocracy/monarchy with a criminal
incompetent gameshow host lying shitstain for a ruler, and there is at least some counterbalance to the forces of fascism and sellout cowardliness of the Republicans.
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What a massive pile of triggered leftist bile. The ONLY thing the Party of the Jackass is showing the world is what a bunch of whiny, petty, lying partisan dumbasses they are. ;)

Micawber said:
I personally think it is a winner for Dems. They did not push a hoax.
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You've never been right. It is a LOSER for the Party of the Jackass. The transcript released proved the Ukrainian thing to be a massive pile of Schiff lie filled bile.

Micawber said:
Where I live it's suburbs, high wealth, medium density all college educated. NOBODY believes Trump is not a criminal. 99% wouldn't stop their Telsa
if he was in the roadway. No tire tracks. Amazing how different it is elsewhere.
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You'll find that this is a common thread when Trump wins re-election in 2020.

The ONLY thing that can change that REALITY would be a complete meltdown of the economy. No one with a brain is predicting that is going to happen. ;)
 
Frank Apisa said:
I can understand someone being forced to defend Trump. Anyone "choosing" to defend him is pissing on the Republic.
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Forced to defend? What is there to defend?? Trump has done NOTHING that needs to be defended. He is doing a great job, the economy is booming, the PHONY media has been exposed as being nothing more than the PRAVDA of the DNC and the Democratic Party of the Jackass is tearing itself into pieces and burning down their own house.

Let's pretend you are being honest; is Nadler lying here, just a massive partisan hypocrite or both in this video? I can't get one leftist to answer that question with any honesty.

Jerry Nadler | We're Lowering the Standard of Impeachment
 
Frank Apisa said:
I'm a registered Independent.
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So what? It's obvious you're a leftist that bloviates false media narratives like a Democrat.

Frank Apisa said:
The "obstruction of Congress" charge is so firm, a defense lawyer would probably suggest a guilty plea.
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It is so weak it would get laughed out of a court of law. If it is so rock solid, why didn't they take it to the courts?

Frank Apisa said:
But you are correct. The spineless cowards in the Senate will NOT vote to remove him...even though that is the most patriotic thing a senator could do.
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Were Democrats spineless cowards when they refused to vote to impeach BillyBob Clinton? There is nothing "patriotic" about this partisan clown show. :rolleyes:
 
GoingNowhereFast said:
Not true. No one has to adhere to congressional subpoenas. You can refuse to cooperate and that’s perfectly legal. It’s then up to the courts to decide if you have to or not.
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:thumbsup: Obstruction of Congress; that one was a hoot! :laugh:

It's ironic in that it is the Democratically controlled congress trying to obstruct Trump! ;)
 
Truth Detector said:
There is a complete lack of evidence that he abused his office. Go ahead, list out what he did to abuse his office genius.
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There is a ton of evidence that he abused his office by extorting Zelensky. If you cannot see it...you just cannot see it. Your problem...not mine.

Obstructed Congress? :rofl2: That is the lamest charge. Yeah, he refused to KowTow to a strictly partisan effort to impugn his Presidency. The Constitution: READ it. ;)
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I have read the Constitution...and it clearly says the House has the power to investigate and impeach.

Trump obstructed the investigation.




Were they spineless defenders of Bill Clinton when they refused to vote for impeachment?
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Those who did not vote for Clinton's impeachment were, in my opinion, showing a bit of spinelessness.

His impeachment was proper...he lied under oath.

My personal opinion was that his conduct did not deserve being removed from office.



Is Nadler a liar, a hypocrite or both when he said this:

Jerry Nadler | We're Lowering the Standard of Impeachment
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A bit of a hypocrite. The hypocrisy from both sides when looking at the Clinton matter versus this Trump matter is thick enough to swim in.

Anything else?
 
Frank Apisa said:
I'm a registered Independent.

The "obstruction of Congress" charge is so firm, a defense lawyer would probably suggest a guilty plea.

But you are correct. The spineless cowards in the Senate will NOT vote to remove him...even though that is the most patriotic thing a senator could do.
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That is were we disagree. I don't like Trump but I think he is doing a reasonable job. And Obstruction of congress is such a nebulous term as to have no meaning.
 
Truth Detector said:
I have? Show me one post where I made this claim. :rolleyes:
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I didn't say YOU did...I said your side did.

They have.

I predicted that Trump will win re-election in 2020 long before the clowns in the Party of the Jackass started this impeachment HOAX. Take the bet Frank! https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...berals-are-strongly-encouraged-to-participate
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I am not a liberal...and I think your bet is childish.

MY GUESS: Trump may well get re-elected. The Republic would lose...but it could happen.



You would be correct on that statement.
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I realize that.



There is nothing "brave" about a partisan one sided vote to impeach with the weakest of claims and evidence. It's downright stupid and ignorant. ;)
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The Democrats are doing something they realize may damage their chances in future elections, because they think it is the right thing to do. I certainly think it is the right thing to do. What they are doing is brave in my estimation.

The spineless Trump supporters know they should be condemning this abomination...but are not doing so because they realize that doing so may damage their chances in future elections. They are spineless cowards, TD.

It takes a hell of a lot more courage to go against the PHONY media and the FALSE narratives they promote. But heck, what would leftists know about courage, right? ;)
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There is no courage involved in shouting "PHONY media" or "FALSE narratives."

The Trump supporters who realize what an abomination he is...are cowards.
 
GoingNowhereFast said:
Not true. No one has to adhere to congressional subpoenas. You can refuse to cooperate and that’s perfectly legal. It’s then up to the courts to decide if you have to or not.
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If you want to be blind to the fact that Trump obstructed the House's Constitutional mandate to investigate...go with it.

I have no problem with people like you being blind.
 
Frank Apisa said:
There is a ton of evidence that he abused his office by extorting Zelensky. If you cannot see it...you just cannot see it. Your problem...not mine.
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That is a rather stupid claim when they guy who was supposedly extorted says he wasn't. You would be laughed out of a court of law with that nonsense. :rolleyes:

Frank Apisa said:
I have read the Constitution...and it clearly says the House has the power to investigate and impeach.
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It also CLEARLY states for treason, high crimes and misdemeanors. It's apparent you read, but lack comprehension. :rolleyes:

Frank Apisa said:
Trump obstructed the investigation.
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Wrong; he refused to oblige a hyper partisan effort based on a lie filled narrative that Schiff was behind. Not one Republican will vote for such an outrage along with a few Democrats. This is the worst case of Congressional abuse of power in the history of our Republic.

Frank Apisa said:
Those who did not vote for Clinton's impeachment were, in my opinion, showing a bit of spinelessness.

His impeachment was proper...he lied under oath.

My personal opinion was that his conduct did not deserve being removed from office.
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So obstructing Justice, lying under oath and banging interns are not good reasons to remove a President???? But if it is Trump, having your feelings hurt by him constitutes high crimes and misdemeanors? STFU Frank. :laugh:

Frank Apisa said:
A bit of a hypocrite. The hypocrisy from both sides when looking at the Clinton matter versus this Trump matter is thick enough to swim in.
Anything else?
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That's a dishonest statement Frank. I didn't expect more from you. ;)
 
Truth Detector said:
Forced to defend? What is there to defend?? Trump has done NOTHING that needs to be defended. He is doing a great job, the economy is booming, the PHONY media has been exposed as being nothing more than the PRAVDA of the DNC and the Democratic Party of the Jackass is tearing itself into pieces and burning down their own house.

Let's pretend you are being honest; is Nadler lying here, just a massive partisan hypocrite or both in this video? I can't get one leftist to answer that question with any honesty.

Jerry Nadler | We're Lowering the Standard of Impeachment
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I already answered your question.
 
Truth Detector said:
I R O N Y!!! :rolleyes:



All the way to the Trump victory in 2020. So tell me Frank, is Biden being a liar, a partisan hypocrite or both in this video? I can't get one leftist on this forum to answer that with any honesty.

FLASHBACK: In 1998 Biden Warns Of Impeaching A President Because Of Politics
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Biden is doing what politicians do...saying what is necessary for the moment.

It is hypocrisy...and is found in almost every political undertaking.
 
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