Rep. Jamaal Bowman pulls fire alarm ahead of vote to pass short-term funding bill

[Yakuda]

To open a door


What was the intent of your trump riot buddies who smashed windows and played artist with their own shit


Or even someone else’s shit


What fucking violent hate filled idiot criminals


And you want to claim opening a god damned door is a crime?

Great! So he intended to open a door by pulling down on a lever attached to a red box that reads either FIRE or FIRE ALARM depending on the model installed. So you're saying he's like you an illiterate jackass. For once we agree.

 

[evince]

What did your shit writers write on the walls you fucking democracy hater?

 

[Yakuda]

Yes. Opinions are fine. Thinking this is prosecutable is what is stupid.


I recognize that you derps can listen to Trump perfect Ukraine call or his perfect Georgia 'find votes'; call and we can argue over intent.

You guys can say since we cannot prove Trump's intent, he cannot be charged. And i agree. We can believe what we believe but to get to charges you NEED MORE, because if you and i disagree over intent then finding 12 jurors who would all agree will be a challenge.

A smart person recognized the above that we need MORE than what we 'think' to prove INTENT.

A stupid person, like Terry thinks, 'since i am convinced my opinion is correct... we are ready for trial', when i can cite examples of other people who hold different opinions thus not the thing any prosecutor would prosecute, as you need all 12 jurors to agree.

Thank you. There is no need for opinion however as the congressman tells us his intent in the link in the OP. He intended to open a door by pulling a lever on a red box on the wall that reads, FIRE or FIRE ALARM based on the model installed. Now if we believe him then hes an illiterate person who apparently has never seen a fire alarm pull station before. Or he's not being completely honest.

 

[evince]

A guy opened a door wrong


Then fucking next to nothing happens


Your assholes beat cops


Stole police equipment


Broke down doors and windows


Tried to hang elected officials



SMEARED SHIT ALL OVER OUR CAPITAL


and you pretend it never happened



Even though over a thousands perps have been caught processed and convicted



Excuse us if we think your just a loser pouting about being such a fucking loser on this issue

 

[Earl]

Thank you. There is no need for opinion however as the congressman tells us his intent in the link in the OP. He intended to open a door by pulling a lever on a red box on the wall that reads, FIRE or FIRE ALARM based on the model installed. Now if we believe him then hes an illiterate person who apparently has never seen a fire alarm pull station before. Or he's not being completely honest.

I go with...he's lying.

If this were a Republican trying to delay a Democratic bill, he would already have been expelled from Congress.

 

[QP!]

Thank you. There is no need for opinion however as the congressman tells us his intent in the link in the OP. He intended to open a door by pulling a lever on a red box on the wall that reads, FIRE or FIRE ALARM based on the model installed. Now if we believe him then hes an illiterate person who apparently has never seen a fire alarm pull station before. Or he's not being completely honest.

Sure but he did not believe it would set off an alarm and thought it was a way to use the door despite it being alarmed, as he has been stating. Especially one that would set off an alarm in a building he was not in.

So the issue remains.

I think Trump is illiterate and stupid but that does not mean my opinion can be used in court to establish his intent.

For instance prove this with fact...

Prove Jamal knew that opening the door in one building (regardless of what you believe) would set off an alarm in a completely separate building.

I don't want your opinion or what you believe. Give me FACTS that prove it.

 

[ExpressLane]

I am not asking you what your opinion on his actions are. Lets concede you believe what you say, which is fine. You are allowed your own opinion.

What i am asking is how you PROVE intent, when he says that is not what he intended.


For instance I absolutely believe that Trump intended to send Jan6ers to the Capital with intent to rile them up to shut down the proceeding that day.

But because i am not an idiot, i realize you can never prosecute Trump for that INTENT unless you have some direct evidence such as an admission from him.

So what i am asking you is 'are the type of idiot who thinks they should prosecute Trump on WHAT I BELIEVE'', and prosecute Jamal on 'WHAT YOU BELIEVE' when they both deny it and WE CANNOT prove intent?

It is clear that his actions would result in a trigger fire alarm even if it opened the doors.. There were other doors he could have used without triggering an alarm. So he INTENDED to trigger an alarm knowing his actions would cause evacuation of the Capitol thus delaying the CR vote.

 

[evince]

I go with...he's lying.

If this were a Republican trying to delay a Democratic bill, he would already have been expelled from Congress.

Link ass fuck?

 

[evince]

It is clear that his actions would result in a trigger fire alarm even if it opened the doors.. There were other doors he could have used without triggering an alarm. So he INTENDED to trigger an alarm knowing his actions would cause evacuation of the Capitol thus delaying the CR vote.

And when trump told people to go hang Pense?

 

[Damocles]

This is it. He did not pull any alarm. It was in ANOTHER building and not the one the proceedings were in, so you have to assume he knew it would also trigger an alarm in adjacent buildings. Good luck with proving that intent.


Again this was a vote he wanted to happen and was racing to get there. It was not one he did not want to happen.

LOL. This is a lie to you and yours...

Here is the door, the plastic sign they put there before taking the picture was not there... It must hurt when someone like MTG is the person that puts this lie to bed. However you can just look at the door behind him and see that the sign someone propped against a door to take a picture to convince idiots simply isn't there.

 

[QP!]

It is clear that his actions would result in a trigger fire alarm even if it opened the doors.. There were other doors he could have used without triggering an alarm. So he INTENDED to trigger an alarm knowing his actions would cause evacuation of the Capitol thus delaying the CR vote.

I get you have strong opinions on what is clear or not.

Is it your view that 'strong opinions on what is clear is enough'? I, and many others had strong opinions about Trumps perfect call over Ukraine. We were told that was not enough as we could not prove Trumps intent.

Do you now think Trump should have been charged for the Ukraine call because 'I (and others) see it as clear,' or do you think PROOF and not just our strong opinions are enough?

 

[ExpressLane]

I am not asking you what your opinion on his actions are. Lets concede you believe what you say, which is fine. You are allowed your own opinion.

What i am asking is how you PROVE intent, when he says that is not what he intended.


For instance I absolutely believe that Trump intended to send Jan6ers to the Capital with intent to rile them up to shut down the proceeding that day.

But because i am not an idiot, i realize you can never prosecute Trump for that INTENT unless you have some direct evidence such as an admission from him.

So what i am asking you is 'are the type of idiot who thinks they should prosecute Trump on WHAT I BELIEVE'', and prosecute Jamal on 'WHAT YOU BELIEVE' when they both deny it and WE CANNOT prove intent?

What did your shit writers write on the walls you fucking democracy hater?

BUT J6!! BUT J6!!

DEFLECTION MUCH?

 

[evince]

LOL. This is a lie to you and yours...

Here is the door, the plastic sign they put there before taking the picture was not there... It must hurt when someone like MTG is the person that puts this lie to bed.

She is a fucking liar

You are a fucking loser

 

[evince]

LOL. This is a lie to you and yours...

Here is the door, the plastic sign they put there before taking the picture was not there... It must hurt when someone like MTG is the person that puts this lie to bed. However you can just look at the door behind him and see that the sign someone propped against a door to take a picture to convince idiots simply isn't there.

And you deny the insurrection happened just like that lying whore who hates democracy huh

 

[ExpressLane]

I get you have strong opinions on what is clear or not.

Is it your view that 'strong opinions on what is clear is enough'? I, and many others had strong opinions about Trumps perfect call over Ukraine. We were told that was not enough as we could not prove Trumps intent.

Do you now think Trump should have been charged for the Ukraine call because 'I (and others) see it as clear,' or do you think PROOF and not just our strong opinions are enough?

Typical Democrat deflection. When you can't win a debate defect deflect!.

BUT TRUMP!!!

 

[TOP]

There was no emergency and it clearly says emergency exit only... he pulled the alarm intentionally... he wasn't trapped in the vestibule...lol

 

[Damocles]

She is a fucking liar

You are a fucking loser

Says the woman who looks at a picture of the man standing in front of a door with no sign on it, and a picture of a plastic sign, clearly propped there for picture day, and just "believes" because "magic"...

You are an idiot. That picture was for idiots. You should watch the video, it's actually the door he was at... There is no indication that he would be confused as to what it is.

As for that sign. What it says is to push the door, not pull the fire alarm. So the sign that was not there, that he didn't read, that doesn't say to pull a fire alarm, made him pull a fire alarm? Man you really want to believe so badly you will literally give yourself a frontal lobotomy in order to make sure you will believe.

 

[QP!]

BUT J6!! BUT J6!!

DEFLECTION MUCH?

I am not trying to deflect, i am trying to get you guys to be less stupid and understand how BELIEF does not prove intent with examples you should understand where you claimed 'BELIEF DOES NOT PROVE INTENT'.



I am trying to get you guys to be consistent. To understand you cannot say to us 'our belief Trump intended for the Jan6ers to attack the Capital is not enough to prove his intent' (and i agree, more is needed) and then you turn around and say that 'your belief on Jamal IS enough'.


You guys complain i call you stupid, and i am trying to help you be less stupid, and this is step 1. Some consistency.

 

[Damocles]

There was no emergency and it clearly says emergency exit only... he pulled the alarm intentionally... he wasn't trapped in the vestibule...lol

He didn't push on that door. My best guess is if we ever get the video it will show him pulling the alarm then turning and walking out and toward the stairs that MTG shows after showing you the door. There is no sign there, that is fictional.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I am not asking you what your opinion on his actions are. Lets concede you believe what you say, which is fine. You are allowed your own opinion.

What i am asking is how you PROVE intent, when he says that is not what he intended.


For instance I absolutely believe that Trump intended to send Jan6ers to the Capital with intent to rile them up to shut down the proceeding that day.

But because i am not an idiot, i realize you can never prosecute Trump for that INTENT unless you have some direct evidence such as an admission from him.

So what i am asking you is 'are the type of idiot who thinks they should prosecute Trump on WHAT I BELIEVE'', and prosecute Jamal on 'WHAT YOU BELIEVE' when they both deny it and WE CANNOT prove intent?

What would a reasonable adult of average intelligence think a pull switch marked "FIRE" was for? That would be the standard here, not divining Bowman's "intent." Or, again, are you claiming Bowman is a certifiable idiot / retard / or is mentally a small child?