Rep. Jamaal Bowman pulls fire alarm ahead of vote to pass short-term funding bill

QP! said:
Ya but you did not 'prove me wrong'.

I believe Trump's intent was to extort Zelinksi. I have the transcript.

Prove me wrong or you concede i am right.
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I have proven you wrong. You've done nothig to prove me wrong.

Where's the extortion? Point to it. BTW this is off topic.
 
Yakuda said:
I have proven you wrong. You've done nothig to prove me wrong.

Where's the extortion? Point to it. BTW this is off topic.
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It's in the call.I cited that transcript.

You have not proven me wrong. Quote what makes me wrong.

Show me in quotes your proof?


And it is NOT off topic. If your view is we present proof by offering our opinion and just saying 'prove me wrong', then
 
QP! said:
It's in the call.I cited that transcript.

You have not proven me wrong. Quote what makes me wrong.

Show me in quotes your proof?


And it is NOT off topic. If your view is we present proof by offering our opinion and just saying 'prove me wrong', then
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You posted a transcript not extortion. What's the extortion part? You didn't read it did you?

From YOUR link

"The memo released by the White House Wednesday includes this cautionary language: "CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place.""
 
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Into the Night said:
Contextomy fallacy. You are better than lowering yourself to this. Don't put words in my mouth. There is no confession.

I am not voting for Trump to punish Democrats. I'm voting for Trump because he supports and upholds the Constitution. He is not planning to suspend any part of it. He never said he was going to suspend any part of it. He is talking about what DEMOCRATS are doing.

The only 'bad stuff' you are complaining about is based on a contextomy fallacy. Trump is NOT planning to suspend any part of the Constitution. He is describing how DEMOCRATS plan to suspend the Constitution (which is happening). It is YOU taking these remarks out of context.
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He was not talking about what Democrats are doing, he was talking about what he thought should be done.

Your excuses are weak, and they are based on wishes rather than information.

I don't care why you vote for Trump, I care why I would or would not vote for him. I have explained to you why I would not vote for him and nothing you have said has changed that.

If you want my vote then you know what to do, otherwise you will have one less vote. I don't believe you are going to convince me he didn't say what he said, I do not often fall for gaslighting. My "lying eyes" aren't lying and yes, I'm going to believe what I saw over your insistence that he suddenly "respects" the same constitution that he wanted to suspend.

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Into the Night said:
Contextomy fallacy. You are better than lowering yourself to this. Don't put words in my mouth. There is no confession.

I am not voting for Trump to punish Democrats. I'm voting for Trump because he supports and upholds the Constitution. He is not planning to suspend any part of it. He never said he was going to suspend any part of it. He is talking about what DEMOCRATS are doing.

The only 'bad stuff' you are complaining about is based on a contextomy fallacy. Trump is NOT planning to suspend any part of the Constitution. He is describing how DEMOCRATS plan to suspend the Constitution (which is happening). It is YOU taking these remarks out of context.
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Lie. Grow up.
 
Damocles said:
He was not talking about what Democrats are doing, he was talking about what he thought should be done.

Your excuses are weak, and they are based on wishes rather than information.

I don't care why you vote for Trump, I care why I would or would not vote for him. I have explained to you why I would not vote for him and nothing you have said has changed that.

If you want my vote then you know what to do, otherwise you will have one less vote. I don't believe you are going to convince me he didn't say what he said, I do not often fall for gaslighting. My "lying eyes" aren't lying and yes, I'm going to believe what I saw over your insistence that he suddenly "respects" the same constitution that he wanted to suspend.
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Could I ask you cite the best example of trump suspending the constitution? Not want to suspend it but actually suspending it. I never want to vote for Trump but do so because I don't think any democratic candidate gives a shit about me as a conservative. If you had info that might help me think differently about it Id love to hear it. Thanks.
 
TOP said:
What is the law when you intentionally pull a fire alarm when there is no fire...or emergency?
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In Washington DC, where the incident happened, and if you interrupt a civil proceeding by doing it (which he did), you can face 30 years in jail.
 
Yakuda said:
Could I ask you cite the best example of trump suspending the constitution? Not want to suspend it but actually suspending it. I never want to vote for Trump but do so because I don't think any democratic candidate gives a shit about me as a conservative. If you had info that might help me think differently about it Id love to hear it. Thanks.
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Show me where I said he suspended the constitution.

I certainly do not suggest you vote for Democrats, I've told you why I would never vote for that lot. I also said their bad actions make it so I won't vote for them, not so I will vote for Trump. I won't vote for Trump, he is not the party, there are plenty of choices I would vote for in the republican party and I suggest you and I do that rather than "settle" for someone who believes they are more important than the rules in the Constitution...

Here is what Trump said, where he believes that he is so important that the rules should all be terminated including "even those found in the Constitution"...

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Yakuda said:
Could I ask you cite the best example of trump suspending the constitution? Not want to suspend it but actually suspending it. I never want to vote for Trump but do so because I don't think any democratic candidate gives a shit about me as a conservative. If you had info that might help me think differently about it Id love to hear it. Thanks.
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His only 'info' is taking a statement by Trump out of context, where Trump was describing how Democrats want to suspend the Constitution.
 
Damocles said:
Show me where I said he suspended the constitution.

I certainly do not suggest you vote for Democrats, I've told you why I would never vote for that lot. I also said their bad actions make it so I won't vote for them, not so I will vote for Trump. I won't vote for Trump, he is not the party, there are plenty of choices I would vote for in the republican party and I suggest you and I do that rather than "settle" for someone who believes they are more important than the rules in the Constitution...

Here is what Trump said, where he believes that he is so important that the rules should all be terminated including "even those found in the Constitution"...

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Trump is describing what DEMOCRATS are doing, Damo. He has never called for suspending any part of the Constitution. Again, you are again making a contextomy fallacy.
 
Damocles said:
Show me where I said he suspended the constitution.

I certainly do not suggest you vote for Democrats, I've told you why I would never vote for that lot. I also said their bad actions make it so I won't vote for them, not so I will vote for Trump. I won't vote for Trump, he is not the party, there are plenty of choices I would vote for in the republican party and I suggest you and I do that rather than "settle" for someone who believes they are more important than the rules in the Constitution...

Here is what Trump said, where he believes that he is so important that the rules should all be terminated including "even those found in the Constitution"...

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That last line seems like a hair split but fine. It's neither here nor there.

AGAIN I don't want to vote for trump and haven't and won't in primaries but if he is the repub nominee I will vote for him. Why? Because the chances are near 99.9% that the winner any presidential election will be either a Republican or a democrat. Since I dont believe any Democrat gives about me as a conservative I wont take a vote away from the Republican candidate.
 
Yakuda said:
That last line seems like a hair split but fine. It's neither here nor there.

AGAIN I don't want to vote for trump and haven't and won't in primaries but if he is the repub nominee I will vote for him. Why? Because the chances are near 99.9% that the winner any presidential election will be either a Republican or a democrat. Since I dont believe any Democrat gives about me as a conservative I wont take a vote away from fhr Republican candidate.
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I hear you. I just won't vote for Trump even if he is the nominee, that's the only difference here. It's okay, I don't think my vote will make the difference. I don't think my vote would count even if I voted for Trump as this state votes Ds and I do not. I mean they'll count my vote, but even if I voted for Trump the electoral votes of this state will go to whomever has a D by their name no matter how I vote.
 
Yakuda said:
Could I ask you cite the best example of trump suspending the constitution? Not want to suspend it but actually suspending it. I never want to vote for Trump but do so because I don't think any democratic candidate gives a shit about me as a conservative. If you had info that might help me think differently about it Id love to hear it. Thanks.
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You make a good point about Pedo Don being a liar; he says one thing and does another. He promised to pardon his supporters then threw them under the bus. He wants to suspend the Constitution and didn't. He wants to execute military leaders and won't lift a finger to make it happen. He promised to only appoint the best people and didn't. He promised to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it and didn't.

Pedo Don is a liar. Thanks for agreeing, Yak. :thup:
 
Into the Night said:
His only 'info' is taking a statement by Trump out of context, where Trump was describing how Democrats want to suspend the Constitution.
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Nonsense, in order to believe that it is something he's saying "they" are doing you have to take it out of the context I have supplied.
 
Damocles said:
I hear you. I just won't vote for Trump even if he is the nominee, that's the only difference here. It's okay, I don't think my vote will make the difference. I don't think my vote would count even if I voted for Trump as this state votes Ds and I do not. I mean they'll count my vote, but even if I voted for Trump the electoral votes of this state will go to whomever has a D by their name no matter how I vote.
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I understand. I see it like hitting the lottery. Will I win if I buy a ticket? Extremely unlikely but someone will win and they bought a ticket. So if I want to win I better buy a ticket no matter how unlikely it is that I'll win.
 
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