Repeal or replace?

Democrats are NOT “fighting for health care.”

They alone CREATED the (UN)Affordable Care Act, which has undeniably made costs SKYROCKET.

Now, they want to subsidize insurance companies with even MORE taxpayer money to hide their policy failures.

Republicans are actually making health care more affordable by ending waste, fraud, and abuse.
 
Diogenes said:
The downfall of American healthcare began with the introduction of health insurance, IMO.
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There's a certain amount of truth to this.

Before, the doctor treated each patient like a customer, competing to give the best service over other doctors.
Sometimes, people would form 'friendly societies', that would cover for each other in case of bad fortune were to strike one of them, such as requiring an expensive medical procedure. In this system, the doctor still treated the patient like a customer.

There grew into health insurance plans, operate by corporations that had no interest in their patient welfare. The instead try to cut payout costs and raise premiums.

Getting people to sign up in mass made them even more money, so the company provided health insurance became the norm.

Eventually it became government health insurance (ObamaCare, Medicare, Medicaid). Now premiums become taxes, collected by force.

So, health insurance is now more expensive, REQUIRED to purchase, and gives you less coverage than ever.

And the doctors? They don't get to practice freely anymore. They are restricted and even told what they can and cannot do by insurance companies now, and these doctors are treated like shit.
 
Diogenes said:
Democrats are NOT “fighting for health care.”

They alone CREATED the (UN)Affordable Care Act, which has undeniably made costs SKYROCKET.

Now, they want to subsidize insurance companies with even MORE taxpayer money to hide their policy failures.

Republicans are actually making health care more affordable by ending waste, fraud, and abuse.
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Obamacare does not end with the expiration of the extended subsidies. The extended subsidies were for people in higher income brackets.
 
Life is Golden said:
We can't go back to the system in place in the 20s or 30s. Too late for all that. The last bullet point is false.
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Yes you can. It worked, for one thing.
The last bullet point is a randU, but it is not necessarily false. Medical costs DO cause a lot of bankruptcies.
So does overextending your debt, suffering an uninsured loss, losing your income, etc.
 
Into the Night said:
Buy health services when they need it, and buy their own health insurance, which will be cheaper because they have to compete again.
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Insurance companies can’t underwrite policies any more. Someone can be diagnosed with cancer one day, buy a policy the next, and the insurer is still required to cover it.

At today’s prices, only the very wealthy can afford to pay cash for medical care.

There is no simplistic solution.
 
Life is Golden said:
Insurance companies can’t underwrite policies any more. Someone can be diagnosed with cancer one day, buy a policy the next, and the insurer is still required to cover it.

At today’s prices, only the very wealthy can afford to pay cash for medical care.

There is no simplistic solution.
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You are also REQUIRED to buy coverage. It's a tax.
That's what Medicaid, Medicare, VA, and ObamaCare is.

Since the required insurance is pretty useless, I generally pay for my own healthcare anyway. Yes. I pay cash.
I am not very wealthy, but I am wealthy enough.
 
Life is Golden said:
Okay, so if someone has a hospital visit which costs $300k, they are supposed to pay that out of pocket? lol

I don't think you know much about health insurance or medical costs.
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*yawn* this old song again.

Argument of the Stone fallacy. Special pleading fallacy.

Any clinic can stitch up a wound.
Any clinic can handle the usual stuff like infections, and prescribe antibiotics if it's a bacteriological infection.
Even hospitals don't have to cost $300k. They are only expensive because of health insurance and the required nature of them.
 
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