Report Questions Wind Power’s Ability to Deliver Electricity When Most Needed

Onceler said:
It wasn't really that long ago that people questioned how computers could benefit a household, of if TV could be anything more than a novelty item...
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The essential difference though is that computers have a very short life cycle whereas wind turbines are long term projects, typically 20-30 years. So what you have now you are stuck with for a very long time!
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
The essential difference though is that computers have a very short life cycle whereas wind turbines are long term projects, typically 20-30 years. So what you have now you are stuck with for a very long time!
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so you're opposed to them because they last a long time?.....
 
Wind power is now one of America’s biggest sources of new electricity and fastest growing manufacturing sectors. It has accounted for more than a third of all new U.S. electric generation in recent years.
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Now, wind supports as many as 5,000 Iowa jobs, and $11 million in annual land lease payments to Iowa farmers. Iowa wind has prompted $300 million in private investment in Iowa manufacturing facilities.
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If taxes on wind energy are kept stable and low, according to a recent study from a national economic consulting firm, , this business can grow to 100,000 U.S. jobs in four years, and support 500,000 U.S. jobs by 2030.
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72954.html
 
By using its wind turbines instead of fossil fuels to supply electricity, Spanish electricity prices fell to €51/MWh during the first two weeks of February while in neighboring France electricity cost €105/MWh. During that time, wind provided a whopping 28.9 percent of Spain’s electricity.
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It may also be true that the renewable enery sector creates more, and more skilled, jobs than the fossil fuel industry. According to Spanish wind energy comapny Gamesa, the country’s wind sector provides over 30,000 jobs and prevents Spain from importing of over 2 billion euros’ worth of fossil fuels. In all, that means that Spain’s wind sector provides a return of three euros for every euro invested, according to Gamesa.
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http://www.earthtechling.com/2012/03/spain-blows-away-monthly-wind-energy-record/
 
PostmodernProphet said:
and, we need wind power for that point in the future when there will be no fossil fuels.....
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If you don't have any backup to provide a baseload, what do you do? What is vital to make wind power viable is a coast to coast super transmission grid, that will cost trillions of dollars. I can't see anybody with the political will to make that happen.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
If you don't have any backup to provide a baseload, what do you do? What is vital to make wind power viable is a coast to coast super transmission grid, that will cost trillions of dollars. I can't see anybody with the political will to make that happen.
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actually no.....windpower has been successful in Iowa and Spain without a coast to coast super transmission grid....
 
I find it odd that you start so many threads defending BP and attacking non fossil fuels......are you the CEO of BP or something?......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
????.....why do you have to replace the technology used now?.....why not use the technology used now, now.....
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I have already stated the reasons why the current generation of wind turbines are inefficient. I have also tried to point out that the massive investment in wind turbines would be better applied to thorium reactors, China, India and Japan are investing considerable amounts on developing this technology.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...nd-China-is-leading-the-way-with-thorium.html
 
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PostmodernProphet said:
I find it odd that you start so many threads defending BP and attacking non fossil fuels......are you the CEO of BP or something?......
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My defence of BP is very simple, I find it disgusting that they have been singled out when there were many players in the Gulf. BP fucked up, nobody is denying that but they at least owned up and paid out massive compensation. Cameron who supplied the blowout preventer which failed have paid some compensation but Transocean who owned the rig have point blank refused to accept any liability even now.

I have contrasted BP's ownership of the problems with the many US corporations, over the years, that have steadfastly refused to pay adequate compensation. I even detailed the actions, in enormous detail, of companies like Union Carbide, Dow, Occidental, Exxon to name a few that have behaved abominably. I just find it obnoxious and hypocritical that there is this abhorrence of something that happens on the home ground whilst ignoring all the environmental and human disasters that have occurred outside the US perpetrated by US companies. Piper Alpha resulted in the deaths of 167 men in the North Sea yet Occidental just upped sticks and ran as fast as possible and haven't been back since.

Chevron, the company that Top Spliff used to work for, nearly had a similar situation off the coast of Brazil but were saved by the blowout preventer doing its intended job, I wonder if a huge oil spill had occurred though would anybody have given a shit? It is interesting to note that Transocean also owned that rig.

I hope this helps!
 
The Dude said:
No way I'm burning tree in the kingdom!
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I know many people who have worked in Saudi over the years, the money is good but very few have a good word to say about it. If you drive a car, it is always your fault if you have a collision. Even if you are in the back of a taxi which has an accident, it is still your fault.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I know many people who have worked in Saudi over the years, the money is good but very few have a good word to say about it. If you drive a car, it is always your fault if you have a collision. Even if you are in the back of a taxi which has an accident, it is still your fault.
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I'd likely stay 99 percent within the American compound
 
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