Republican lawmakers to Biden: no more ‘unrestrained aid’ to Ukraine | Res Statecraft

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Title is based on an article I found interesting published on Thursday, thought it might be good for a bit of discussion. Quoting its introduction below...

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April 20, 2023

Written by Kelley Beaucar Vlahos

A number of Republican lawmakers, including three senators, sent President Joe Biden a letter Thursday proclaiming that they will no longer support “unrestrained” American aid to Ukraine and “will adamantly oppose all future aid packages unless they are linked to a clear diplomatic strategy designed to bring this war to a rapid conclusion.”

Calling the conflict a “proxy war with Russia” that is “not in the strategic interest of the United States and risks an escalation that could spiral out of control,” the members charge that the current administration policy of “sanctions and drawn-out aid” will only prolong the conflict.

“There are appropriate ways in which the U.S. can support the Ukrainian people, but unlimited arms supplies in support of an endless war is not one of them,” the letter reads. “Our national interests, and those of the Ukrainian people, are best served by incentivizing the negotiations that are urgently needed to bring this conflict to a resolution.”

The names affixed to the document are no real surprise. The three senators — Rand Paul (R-Ky.), Mike Lee (R-Utah), and J.D. Vance (R-Ohio) — have voiced concern about the aid in terms of oversight and the sheer amount drawn from U.S. coffers over the last year (over $113 billion, more than $60 billion of which is direct military assistance or resources for U.S. and NATO defense specifically earmarked for the war).

The senators join a growing chorus of conservative voices questioning whether more unconditional military aid might disincentivize the diplomatic track and help further destroy the country as the conflict grinds on in a war of attrition.

“Since we’re paying the piper, we have a responsibility to call the tune: to figure out what’s possible and make sure our investment is getting us there,” Daniel McCarthy, syndicated columnist and editor of Modern Age journal, tells RS. “The only realistic path to stability demands diplomacy of the highest caliber. The alternative is endless spending for endless war.”

On the House side, 16 Republican members signed the letter, following the lead of freshman Rep. Eli Crane of Arizona. They include Reps. Mary Miller of Illinois, Paul Gosar and Andy Biggs of Arizona, Matt Gaetz and Anna Paulina Luna of Florida, Dan Bishop of North Carolina, Barry Moore of Alabama, Lauren Boebert of Colorado, Tim Burchett and Andy Ogles of Tennessee, Ralph Norman of South Carolina, Matt Rosendale of Montana, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Mike Collins of Georgia and Josh Brecheen of Texas.

The group includes familiar faces in the growing conservative-populist movement like Greene who have been been adamant about not sending more aid to Ukraine. Rep. Greene told Lesley Stahl of 60 Minutes recently that Ukraine was “not the 51st state,” and that she has to focus on fixing the problems her constituents and the American people are facing.

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I am seeing multiple reports that Russia is currently sending the message via ramping up operations "No, you will not join NATO".
 
Bakmut is over, only a couple or three thousand Ukrainian forces left alive, and 100% surrounded. Ukraine is desperately trying to free them.
 
Apparently the chances that Ukraine ever launches any offensive go down by the day.....they are getting their asses kicked, and the Russians are just getting started.
 
Re Bakhmut: MacGregor: Re the Russians: Why would you go on the offensive and take ground when the enemy comes to you and you quickly kill them?

Up till now Russias mission has been to kill Ukrainians not take ground. This might have changed, the Russians are gearing up to go all the way to the Polish border if that is what it is going to take to get peace because the Americans refuse peace.

This is war to the last Ukrainian.
 
I am seeing multiple reports that Russia is currently sending the message via ramping up operations "No, you will not join NATO".

Makes sense. I think it's kind of like how the U.S. sent a message to Cuba that no, it would not retain its Russian provided nukes.
 
Apparently the chances that Ukraine ever launches any offensive go down by the day.....they are getting their asses kicked, and the Russians are just getting started.

Yeah. I think Scott Ritter's probably right that this conflict will be over this summer.
 
Yeah. I think Scott Ritter's probably right that this conflict will be over this summer.

The only other option is to send in NATO troops, but it was always clear that neither the Europeans nor the Americans are willing to spend one life on that project.....as the Russians and the Chinese have also been aware.
 
Makes sense. I think it's kind of like how the U.S. sent a message to Cuba that no, it would not retain its Russian provided nukes.

Thing is that the ground is still very wet....it will be a good month before they are ready to start their drive to the Polish border. The Russians have massively expanded their force, a lot of them have six months of training so they are ready....and there is no shortage of equipment or ammo.

And the Russian economy is booming, the people are happy, and taking care of America once and for all is worth the sacrifice.
 
The only other option is to send in NATO troops, but it was always clear that neither the Europeans nor the Americans are willing to spend one life on that project.....as the Russians and the Chinese have also been aware.

Well, perhaps 1 American life, perhaps even more than a dozen, if the rumours that there are a few American military personnel in Ukraine is true. But I think that beyond that, no.
 
Makes sense. I think it's kind of like how the U.S. sent a message to Cuba that no, it would not retain its Russian provided nukes.

Thing is that the ground is still very wet....it will be a good month before they are ready to start their drive to the Polish border. The Russians have massively expanded their force, a lot of them have six months of training so they are ready....and there is no shortage of equipment or ammo.

And the Russian economy is booming, the people are happy, and taking care of America once and for all is worth the sacrifice.

What I find so sad is that had the U.S. not helped instigate a coup of former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych back in 2014, none of this would have happened. I think that future historians will place a lot of the blame for this conflict on the interests of American elites, to the detriment of everyone else.
 
Yeah. I think Scott Ritter's probably right that this conflict will be over this summer.
Every legislator got an offer from the war machine that they couldn't refuse and will get in line for perpetual war. That's what empires do.
 
Every legislator got an offer from the war machine that they couldn't refuse and will get in line for perpetual war. That's what empires do.

Agreed. Only it looks like the gravy train will be ending soon. It will become increasingly difficult to continue to pad the pockets of the military industrial complex now that it's becoming evidently clear that Ukraine is going to lose this war, and soon.
 
Agreed. Only it looks like the gravy train will be ending soon. It will become increasingly difficult to continue to pad the pockets of the military industrial complex now that it's becoming evidently clear that Ukraine is going to lose this war, and soon.
Taiwan is next in line. Legacy media can and will sell war to soccer moms. Remember the mushroom cloud as a smoking gun? Their kids were enlisting out of patriotic duty. Bookmark this page. Empire is desperate for WW3.
 
Winning the war will not buy peace. The Ukranes will go full Afghanistan and attack the Russians day after day. Do you pro-Ruskies think that there will ever be peace in Ukraine? They are armed and trained. That will help them go underground and attack forever. All they have to do is look at what Russia did to their cities and infrastructure if they need motivation.
 
Bakmut is over, only a couple or three thousand Ukrainian forces left alive, and 100% surrounded. Ukraine is desperately trying to free them.

Russia major offensive was supposed to wipe Ukraine out, instead, it has spent two months fighting for a town even most Ukrainians have never heard of. They won Bakmut, but that is about it.

In a month or so, Ukraine will start their major offensive. If all they do is capture Bakmut, I will call them failures also.
 
Re Bakhmut: MacGregor: Re the Russians: Why would you go on the offensive and take ground when the enemy comes to you and you quickly kill them?

Up till now Russias mission has been to kill Ukrainians not take ground. This might have changed, the Russians are gearing up to go all the way to the Polish border if that is what it is going to take to get peace because the Americans refuse peace.

This is war to the last Ukrainian.

At the rate Putin is going, they will run out of Russians long before the Polish border.
 
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