republicans at their own debate can't defend themselves they have to attack clinton

Blackflag said:
My mom is a pretty hardcore conservative christian (church of christ) and she has said she wouldn't vote for any of them.

I think the pubs are gonna lose this one. I have a feeling there are alot of christians around the country that feel the same.
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I can only hope that you're right!
 
Blackflag said:
My mom is a pretty hardcore conservative christian (church of christ) and she has said she wouldn't vote for any of them.

I think the pubs are gonna lose this one. I have a feeling there are alot of christians around the country that feel the same.
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I think you are exactly right. I think we established that your mom and I are of the same beliefs, religiously speaking, and many of the CoC friends of mine are of the same mindset about this election. I really think the republicans are gonna lose and lose big.
 
Warren said:
Been with the same woman for fifty years. Returns a portion of his salary to the government every year. Chose not to steal tax dollars by accepting Medicaid during his private practice, instead bearing the burden of the cost on himself. Does not participate in the lucrative Congressional Pension Program. Raises more money from the US military and individuals than any other candidate for President.

Yeah I'd say he's as close as we have right now anyway.
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Releases vile and racist hate commentary in his name on his newsletter that he doesn't even challange for 5 years.

Has more connections and participation with hate groups than ANY politician running for President from either party, or in recent memory.

Has a vapid legislative record and can't get his own bills passed .. and in many cases, can't even get his bills to the floor or out of the introduction phase.

Proposes some of the most outlandish and absurd policies imaginable that have ZERO chance of being implemented.

Gets 93% of his congressional fundraising from outside his district.

Has no leadership capabilities or qualities and has nver held a leadership or committee chairmanship post in all the years he's been in Congress.

He's not being considered for president to go to the White House to deliver babies.
 
Gee I wonder why he has difficulty passing his bills in a legislature of warmongering Republicans and tax-and-spend Democrats?
 
Warren said:
Gee I wonder why he has difficulty passing his bills in a legislature of warmongering Republicans and tax-and-spend Democrats?
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Ther role of a congressperson is to go to Washington and be effective for the constituents who sent them there .. not be engage in grandiose myopic and delusional policies that have no chance of passing or support. Dealing with democrats, republicans, and independents is simply part of the job and no politician can be successful without having the ability to do so. He seems to relish his moniker as Dr. No more than he does having an effective record.
 
blackascoal said:
Ther role of a congressperson is to go to Washington and be effective for the constituents who sent them there .. not be engage in grandiose myopic and delusional policies that have no chance of passing or support. Dealing with democrats, republicans, and independents is simply part of the job and no politician can be successful without having the ability to do so. He seems to relish his moniker as Dr. No more than he does having an effective record.
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Except that is what he runs on and gets elected on. It is ridiculous to think otherwise when his voting record and stance have been pretty much the only consistent thing in DC for quite some time.
 
Damocles said:
Except that is what he runs on and gets elected on. It is ridiculous to think otherwise when his voting record and stance have been pretty much the only consistent thing in DC for quite some time.
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Being consistently wrong and out-of-touch with today's society is hardly an admirable record. Nor is "staying the course" or "being true to his principles" when that course and those principles are inconsistent with what is best for this nation and leads to a failed and vapid record as a politician.

If the constituents in his legislative district have no problem with his failed record, even though they do not support him in fund-raising as they only contribute 7%, that is between them and their god .. but he's running for president and everyone has a right, duty, and responsibility to weigh in on his glaring failures.
 
blackascoal said:
Being consistently wrong and out-of-touch with today's society is hardly an admirable record. Nor is "staying the course" or "being true to his principles" when that course and those principles are inconsistent with what is best for this nation and leads to a failed and vapid record as a politician.

If the constituents in his legislative district have no problem with his failed record, even though they do not support him in fund-raising as they only contribute 7%, that is between them and their god .. but he's running for president and everyone has a right, duty, and responsibility to weigh in on his glaring failures.
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However, your claim is he poorly represents his constituency who are pleased enough with him and continue to vote him into office.

While you say he is "out of touch with society", it is made clear by the reaction of his constituency that he is not "out of touch" with them. His responsibility is to represent them in Congress as a Congressman, as you have oft repeated. They have made it clear that they are happy with such representation. And running for President when he knows that the best he can do is get some of the debate over to issues he considers important, like the war, makes no "He has a responsibility toward...<insert your pet project here>."

He quite literally, at such a place and time has only a responsibility to get the message out that he literally ran to get out.

While, amazingly, he is going to win by the hugest landside in American history, it is not his "responsibility" to work and act as BAC would. Or to speak only on issues that BAC thinks he should.
 
blackascoal said:
Ther role of a congressperson is to go to Washington and be effective for the constituents who sent them there .. not be engage in grandiose myopic and delusional policies that have no chance of passing or support. Dealing with democrats, republicans, and independents is simply part of the job and no politician can be successful without having the ability to do so. He seems to relish his moniker as Dr. No more than he does having an effective record.
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Actually if every member proposed bills that have no chance of passing we would have no deficit or debt.
Different ways of looking at things...
 
Damocles said:
However, your claim is he poorly represents his constituency who are pleased enough with him and continue to vote him into office.

While you say he is "out of touch with society", it is made clear by the reaction of his constituency that he is not "out of touch" with them. His responsibility is to represent them in Congress as a Congressman, as you have oft repeated. They have made it clear that they are happy with such representation. And running for President when he knows that the best he can do is get some of the debate over to issues he considers important, like the war, makes no "He has a responsibility toward...<insert your pet project here>."

He quite literally, at such a place and time has only a responsibility to get the message out that he literally ran to get out.

While, amazingly, he is going to win by the hugest landside in American history, it is not his "responsibility" to work and act as BAC would. Or to speak only on issues that BAC thinks he should.
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Perhaps you missed this .. If the constituents in his legislative district have no problem with his failed record, even though they do not support him in fund-raising as they only contribute 7%, that is between them and their god .. but he's running for president and everyone has a right, duty, and responsibility to weigh in on his glaring failures.

Given his poor showing and his near rock-bottom poll ratings, I'd suggest to you that he isn't measuring up to far more than what BAC expects.

I hope that clears up your confusion about running in his district and running for president.
 
TheDanold said:
Actually if every member proposed bills that have no chance of passing we would have no deficit or debt.
Different ways of looking at things...
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Bad government is bad government .. but all government is not bad government.

The same is true of politicians.
 
blackascoal said:
Perhaps you missed this .. If the constituents in his legislative district have no problem with his failed record, even though they do not support him in fund-raising as they only contribute 7%, that is between them and their god .. but he's running for president and everyone has a right, duty, and responsibility to weigh in on his glaring failures.

Given his poor showing and his near rock-bottom poll ratings, I'd suggest to you that he isn't measuring up to far more than what BAC expects.

I hope that clears up your confusion about running in his district and running for president.
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You consistently cast it in a light different than they see it. First why would they contribute more than 7% to his Presidential run? That is a national thing.

His "failures" are seen differently by his constituency. You mix these together as you attempt to "attack" a guy who has a clear 2%. I'm amazed. Why would you fear this guy more than any of the other R candidates involved in the campaign, as evinced by your constant hassle of his "failures"?

(pssst... much of his 'failures' wind up in later legislation after compromises are made, he has more effect than you pretend he does on the Congress).
 
Damocles said:
You consistently cast it in a light different than they see it. First why would they contribute more than 7% to his Presidential run? That is a national thing.

His "failures" are seen differently by his constituency. You mix these together as you attempt to "attack" a guy who has a clear 2%. I'm amazed. Why would you fear this guy more than any of the other R candidates involved in the campaign, as evinced by your constant hassle of his "failures"?

(pssst... much of his 'failures' wind up in later legislation after compromises are made, he has more effect than you pretend he does on the Congress).
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I have much respect for you my brother .. but you keep dancing ..

I have clearly stated several times that as much as 93% of his campaign funds FOR HIS CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS have come from outside his district ..

Paul is forced into this hypocrisy because there is a conflict between the interests of the voters in district 14 and the values of his Libertarian soul-mates who send him 93 percent of his individual campaign contributions. That’s right, only 7 percent of such contributions come from persons who reside in district 14 (based on analysis of Federal Elections Commission data).
http://www.fortbendnow.com/opinion/2027/paul-votes-with-libertarian-contributors-not-texas-voters

And you can stop with the pointless "why do I fear Paul" .. it isn't fear that motivates me to trash this hapless old bastard .. it is disgust and repulsion.

As I've said before, I'd still trash this motherfucker if he was dead. I have no fear of him ever becoming president or anything else but dead.

and by the way .. his proposed legislation only ends up in the garbage, not re-invented by someone else .. SEE; HR 1146
 
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blackascoal said:
I have much respect for you my brother .. but you keep dancing ..

I have clearly stated several times that as much as 93% of his campaign funds FOR HIS CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS have come from outside his district ..

Paul is forced into this hypocrisy because there is a conflict between the interests of the voters in district 14 and the values of his Libertarian soul-mates who send him 93 percent of his individual campaign contributions. That’s right, only 7 percent of such contributions come from persons who reside in district 14 (based on analysis of Federal Elections Commission data).
http://www.fortbendnow.com/opinion/2027/paul-votes-with-libertarian-contributors-not-texas-voters

And you can stop with the pointless "why do I fear Paul" .. it isn't fear that motivates me to trash this hapless old bastard .. it is disgust and repulsion.

As I've said before, I'd still trash this motherfucker if he was dead. I have no fear of him ever becoming president or anything else but dead.
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You fear him becoming dead?

:D
 
None of the Republicans seem to be offering anything new....
All they can do to promote themselves is be negative about someone else.
At least I am not as bad as __________.
 
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