Dutch Uncle
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Agreed, but I am concerned how much of the country these idiots will burn down before they are put down or controlled.
Republicans in Damage Control Mode As Biden Impeachment Implodes
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It will be a close call, but I think we have a chance.
And I think many people are thinking of backup plans. No one wants to end up in one of trump's "freedom cities." As a side note, I am not saying that trump would definitely setup his "freedom cities" if elected, but it is a real possibility.
Dutch Uncle
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The people with the money know it wouldn't work. Such tactics would simply be used for leverage.
That is what everyone was promised with Hitler. trump is at mercurial. Sometimes he carries through with threats, even when it makes no sense to do so.
trump threatened to destroy the art at the Bonwit Teller Building if he did not get speedy permit approval, and $50k. The Metropolitan Museum of Art helped him get speedy approval, and got him the $50k. trump still destroyed the art. he had threatened to do it so much that he began to believe he would do it. It is a disturbing process that you often see in trump's semi-dead brain.
Dutch Uncle
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It's been almost 100 years since Hitler. Hopefully the world has learned a thing or two along the way.
As for Pedo Don, I'd be happy to stand in line to piss on his grave.
Saddam would never invade Kuwait, he was just making threats to get concessions. Putin would never invade Ukraine, he is just making threats to get concessions. Xi would never destroy the tutoring and gaming industries in China, he is just making threats to get concessions.
We have better than even odds of defeating trump. Even if trump is elected, we have better than even odds that he is just making threats to get concessions... But the very fact his domestic, and international threats are so clear is worrisome. This is a real danger.
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Guno צְבִי;5910321 said:Prominent Republicans dramatically shifted their position on the importance of the evidence provided by former FBI informant Alexander Smirnov after he was charged with lying to the agency and manufacturing falsified records last week.
On Wednesday, House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, a Republican who is leading the impeachment investigation, played down Smirnov's importance claiming he "wasn't an important part of this investigation because I didn't even know who he was" during an interview with Newsmax.
The compilation also included a clip of Representative Jim Jordan, chair of the House Judiciary Committee, claiming Smirnov was "an incredible source" for the FBI. However on Wednesday, Jordan insisted Smirnov's indictment, and his alleged connection to Russian intelligence officers, "doesn't change the fundamental facts" about the Biden impeachment bid.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...h4?cvid=1cc67282a8984f46a581f28ac4e98b36&ei=9
This is the party that brought you Watergate, Iran/Contra, Donald Poopy Pants, fraudulent electors and bullshit FBI informants.
They'll think of something unethical, immoral and illegal.
Dutch Uncle
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Saddam and Putin are tin-plated dictators, a dying breed in the modern world.
While it's possible such a thing can happen in the United States, there's a lot more dynamics going on in a nation of 330M+* and the largest economy on the planet by a long shot. Hitler rose to power in a nation decimated WWI and the economic aftermath.
Author James Baldwin famously wrote “The most dangerous man is one who has nothing to lose”. This is also true on a social level; if people have nothing to lose, they will revolt. While the Trumpers have their share of nutjobs, most are not willing to give up their middle-class lives, middle-class families and middle-class homes to burn it all down.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
*the world's third largest even though both India and China are each over four times larger.
Guno צְבִי;5910321 said:Prominent Republicans dramatically shifted their position on the importance of the evidence provided by former FBI informant Alexander Smirnov after he was charged with lying to the agency and manufacturing falsified records last week.
On Wednesday, House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, a Republican who is leading the impeachment investigation, played down Smirnov's importance claiming he "wasn't an important part of this investigation because I didn't even know who he was" during an interview with Newsmax.
The compilation also included a clip of Representative Jim Jordan, chair of the House Judiciary Committee, claiming Smirnov was "an incredible source" for the FBI. However on Wednesday, Jordan insisted Smirnov's indictment, and his alleged connection to Russian intelligence officers, "doesn't change the fundamental facts" about the Biden impeachment bid.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...h4?cvid=1cc67282a8984f46a581f28ac4e98b36&ei=9
If Comer and Jordan's lips are moving, they're lying. This other guy, Tony Bobalinski has just been caught colluding with Mark Meadows prior to Jan 6th, although he denies it, but Cassidy Huchinson claims she saw him sneak into the white house wearing a ski mask, in order to disguise himself (no joke). These fuck nuts are rotten to the core.
It's sad that instead of doing they job, legislating, the entire maga congress works only on one project: re-electing Donald Trump. It's criminal.
Saddam and Putin are tin-plated dictators, a dying breed in the modern world.
While it's possible such a thing can happen in the United States, there's a lot more dynamics going on in a nation of 330M+* and the largest economy on the planet by a long shot. Hitler rose to power in a nation decimated WWI and the economic aftermath.
Author James Baldwin famously wrote “The most dangerous man is one who has nothing to lose”. This is also true on a social level; if people have nothing to lose, they will revolt. While the Trumpers have their share of nutjobs, most are not willing to give up their middle-class lives, middle-class families and middle-class homes to burn it all down.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
*the world's third largest even though both India and China are each over four times larger.
Xi thinks no matter how much of a dictator he is, China will be fine. It is supposedly too big to fail.
My fear is that trump thinks the same.
Dutch Uncle
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Xi may not be as much in charge as he believes himself to be. Yes, he's the Chairman, but if he fucks up too much, can he be booted?
As for Trump, anyone stupid and/or delusional enough to set up 1/6 is stupid and/or delusional enough to believe all kinds of crazy shit. Him being able to turn his delusions into reality is a completely different matter.
Xi is the first leader since Mao to be both General Secretary(basically chairman of the CPP) and President(leader of the state). To remove him as President, you would need the consent of the General Secretary(himself), and to remove him as General Secretary, you would need the consent of the Politburo.
Since Mao, it had always been the rule that the General Secretary could only serve 10 years. Over 10 years, a General Secretary appoints all the Pulitburo's Standing Committee, and therefore would be almost impossible to remove after 10 years. Xi has broken this rule. He has only his closest allies in the Politburo's Standing Committee.
So to legally remove Xi, his closest allies would have to betray him. It is a multistep process that would take weeks or even months, during which he could, and would, have the plotters against him purged. To illegally remove him would require a coup in a nuclear armed country with a population over a billion people that is key to the world economy.
There are two other ways Xi could lose power. He might resign, but given that he failed to resign when he was supposed to (after 10 years), there is no counting on that. He will definitely die, sooner or later. That seems like the most likely way Xi will leave power.
Here is where things get ugly. Everyone in power in China is there because of blind loyalty to Xi, and "Xi thought". Without Xi telling them it is OK to tone it down a little, "Xi thought" might go completely out of control.
I keep coming back to the fact that two or three years ago, I would have told you there was no way that China could have purges anymore. Right now, China seems to be having a slow motion, quiet purge where more and more business and military leaders are being disappeared or even openly executed. Foreign executives are being arrested, even though they are not Chinese citizens(and investing in China which China should like).
It seems like a toad boiling thing, where the temperature is turned up so slowly that the toad does not even think to leave the pot.
I really do not know. There is a huge amount of tradition and inertia behind American democracy, so I certainly see what you are saying.
Let's just say I am less confident that it is impossible than I used to be.