Rev. Wright: Them Jews ain't going to let him talk to me

The Palestinians deserve self-determination as do the Israelis. And I would offer more criticism of the U.S. on that issue. I think we tied Israel's hands when we let Palestine have an election and then didn't allow their government to get on with the business of governing.

I agree that Israel has been on many occasions in recent years unwise in their use of military power, and to their own detriment on the world stage.



No one said it did. I do not condemn him, but offer a critical view of him as a leader. He does have a responsibility as someone with a following. If he cannot curb his own desire to accuse of a Jewish power monolith, then what will give his followers motivation to individually examine Jewish people, who may hold a diversity of views and personal circumstances?



All I was doing was offering my own imagined interpretation of a soundbite the man was widely condemned for. In a sense, I am going easier on him than most, including Obama, who eventually kicked him to the curb over this statement.

I don't really see how that would have any bearing on my familiarity or reverence for his theological teachings.



Yes, but the thing to remember about that organization's mission statement that they seem to overlook is that in fact most all Jewish people in this country do support Israel in one way or another, even if they are critical of it.

So, are they supposed to be resented globally because they have an unpopular country associated with their religion? Must they choose to abandon their good wishes for that country if they wish to be regarded as trustworthy and free from association with that country's errors?

It's a double-standard that doesn't get applied to many people from many countries. I never blamed my Chinese friends for Communism, and we all know the governments operating in the Middle East these days do not represent the height of civilization.

It's not accurate to say that there is some kind of sizable majority of Jews who feels comfortable around people who regularly criticize the presence and influence of "Zionists" and treat them as conspirators against America's values and interests. The kind of language that exists in this forum actually would frighten many who are not accustomed to it.



I just want to suggest that you're reaching pretty far to connect the resentment between the Black and Jewish communities directly to the issue of Israeli treatment of the Palestinians and Jewish American support for Israel.

The answer is probably much more domestic in nature, and while it may on one side have something to do with the economic, social, and political prominence of the Jewish people, and the deprivation of blacks to the same, I think it mostly has to do with plain old ignorance on both sides.

I'm not sure why I need to condemn either Wright or Zionism.

Zionism has already succeeded in its goal of creating a Jewish state. Even Israel's former enemies now recognize Israel will always exist and hopefully alongside Palestine if we can ever get that worked out.

If my objection must be with the institution of Zionism, to label it racist, or to call Israel a pariah and an apartheid state, then I would be putting myself in the position of suggesting that an entire country should disband simply because I may disagree with its philosophical underpinnings (I don't fundamentally in this case).

What right does anyone have to do this to a sovereign nation?

And isn't the core reason why criticisms of Israel are often labeled anti-Semitic is because many critics continue to extend their condemnation to Jewry instead of focusing on the State of Israel, which happens to be a Jewish country?

There is a jewish power monolith. WHy else would The US give such unconditional suppport the Israel effort, for so little in return?
 
Adam, it's part of your religion to bring the world under a monolithic control structure, to hasten the arrival of your moshiach, and in accordance, most jews Im aware of do, in fact, advocate internationalist fascist policies.
 
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