Rich people are greedy for giving away to charity!

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Why do I hear this so often?

Whenever Oprah gives 40 million away, it was selfish, because she gets a tax deduction.

Whenever Buffet give 40 billion away, it was selfish, because that is not taxed as part of his estate.

Does it make sense to these people that this doesn't represent a net gain? How can it possibly be construed as selifsh?

If giving away 40 million meant that you got a 100 million dollar tax deduction, then it would be selfish. However, giving away 40 million reduces your taxes by far less than 40 million. If someone were selfish, wouldn't it make more sense to keep the money? I've never heard such base stupidity.
 
Why do I hear this so often?

Whenever Oprah gives 40 million away, it was selfish, because she gets a tax deduction.

Whenever Buffet give 40 billion away, it was selfish, because that is not taxed as part of his estate.

Does it make sense to these people that this doesn't represent a net gain? How can it possibly be construed as selifsh?

If giving away 40 million meant that you got a 100 million dollar tax deduction, then it would be selfish. However, giving away 40 million reduces your taxes by far less than 40 million. If someone were selfish, wouldn't it make more sense to keep the money? I've never heard such base stupidity.

The comment was made in reference to Buffett wanting to be taxed more. If he really wants the government to have more money then instead of giving his money away to charity at his death he could keep it and allow the government to take it vis-a-vis the estate tax.
 
Its just stupid for them to hate the rich liberals for giving to charity. They claim charity can fill the gap that will be left when government stops giving any aid to the poor. They should be appaulding anyone who gives to charity because it fits their world view. They are just so transparent that they can not bring themselves to appauld ANYTHING the rich people on the left do even when it is exactly what they want to see done.

The right is just filled with the countries most vindictive people. It really is a charactor thing with hard right. I have seen it in my own personal life with the people I know. The people I know who persist is backing this president are the most shallow and vindictive people I know.
 
The comment was made in reference to Buffett wanting to be taxed more. If he really wants the government to have more money then instead of giving his money away to charity at his death he could keep it and allow the government to take it vis-a-vis the estate tax.

No, if he really wants his taxes to be raised he should support legislation to increase his income groups income taxes.
 
No, if he really wants his taxes to be raised he should support legislation to increase his income groups income taxes.

Contrary to what Desh believes the comment was specific to Buffet and his money and his comments and not "the right" being against "rich liberals" giving to charity.

Buffett has spoken out for higher taxes. He also has an opportunity to influx the government with large amounts of cash himself which he is choosing not to.
 
An Eye for an Eye makes the whole world blind. why would you misquote Gandi like that?

It's mockery of the right's thinking pattern, Desh. If you actually know what the quote is you can see that I'm mocking them, if you don't, usually you're just perplexed.

The right here "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" and think "An eye for an eye makes us all able to see more clearly".
 
Contrary to what Desh believes the comment was specific to Buffet and his money and his comments and not "the right" being against "rich liberals" giving to charity.

Buffett has spoken out for higher taxes. He also has an opportunity to influx the government with large amounts of cash himself which he is choosing not to.

So what?
 
Contrary to what Desh believes the comment was specific to Buffet and his money and his comments and not "the right" being against "rich liberals" giving to charity.

Buffett has spoken out for higher taxes. He also has an opportunity to influx the government with large amounts of cash himself which he is choosing not to.



No he is commenting on policy and how he wishes it would be changed. You hate him for giving to charity and playing within the given rules. Why is it you think he should donate to the government money which this admin would just use to kill more brown people instead of using it to help people?
 
No he is commenting on policy and how he wishes it would be changed. You hate him for giving to charity and playing within the given rules. Why is it you think he should donate to the government money which this admin would just use to kill more brown people instead of using it to help people?

Yeah, that's it Desh. Brilliant.

A. I'm not making the argument. I was stating the argument made.

B. I don't hate Buffett. I have a half-dozen Buffett books at home that I've read. The man is a financial genius.

C. His wife lived three houses down from me in San Francisco and the one time I met her she was a very lovely lady.

Instead of race baiting why not talk about S.S., Medicare, Medicade, Welfare etc. that our tax dollars go to?
 
Heres the FACTS.

Charity will never fix all that needs to be fixed to spurn the poor forward to make them add to our economy.
Helping the poor get to a point where they are adding to the economy instead of creating a drag on our system is GOOD economic policy as well as the decent thing to do.

Increasing the money we spend on education in this country is going to make a huge differance.When we make schools the hubs of their communitues by showing that at school is where people are going to connect their greater society and feel a sense that their country cares about them and wants to help them be invested in their countries future. This is how our kids will start taking a real interest in education. Schools as they exsist today are just one big place where they are treated like criminals. They are so big all the kids feel no connection to anyone on staff because no one has the time to get to know them personnally and understand their current needs. Prison is not condusive to learning and high schools today are very like them.
 
Heres the FACTS.

Charity will never fix all that needs to be fixed to spurn the poor forward to make them add to our economy.
Helping the poor get to a point where they are adding to the economy instead of creating a drag on our system is GOOD economic policy as well as the decent thing to do.

Increasing the money we spend on education in this country is going to make a huge differance.When we make schools the hubs of their communitues by showing that at school is where people are going to connect their greater society and feel a sense that their country cares about them and wants to help them be invested in their countries future. This is how our kids will start taking a real interest in education. Schools as they exsist today are just one big place where they are treated like criminals. They are so big all the kids feel no connection to anyone on staff because no one has the time to get to know them personnally and understand their current needs. Prison is not condusive to learning and high schools today are very like them.

They can probably do this better then any country in the world with the 2.6T in taxes they receive annually. And thats after all the charitable deductions. What makes u think 3T is going to make things any better?
 
BTW it is not race baiting to point out that the people Bush likes to attack are brown.

Actually, it is most certainly race baiting. Because you are implying that Bush attacked them based on the color of their skin. Which is ridiculous. It has nothing to do with the color of their skin.

Or why hasn't Bush started lobbing bombs at Mexico? Their skin is also brown.
 
Actually, it is most certainly race baiting. Because you are implying that Bush attacked them based on the color of their skin. Which is ridiculous. It has nothing to do with the color of their skin.

Or why hasn't Bush started lobbing bombs at Mexico? Their skin is also brown.
It also ignores that the current target is Iran which is not "brown" at all. They are as white as we are.
 
Its a fact that the people who are being attacked by Bush and the Rs are brown. Why do you think the policies are they way they are to keep the brown immigrants illegal?

If we had real immigration policies that allowed them to come legally then we would not have so many brown illegal immigrants. They want them illegal and cheap to pay for the corporations and easy to attack and send back when they are through with them.
 
Its a fact that the people who are being attacked by Bush and the Rs are brown. Why do you think the policies are they way they are to keep the brown immigrants illegal?

If we had real immigration policies that allowed them to come legally then we would not have so many brown illegal immigrants. They want them illegal and cheap to pay for the corporations and easy to attack and send back when they are through with them.

Yes, they have brown skin. But that does not change the fact that the color of their skin is NOT why we attacked. It has nothing to do with that decision. If they were so eager to attack people because of brown skin, why not just attack Mexico. We could have attacked brown people and stopped illegal immigration at the same time. /sarcasm off

We DO have real immigration policies that allow people to come here legally Desh. But please, continue your racist behavior of focusing on their skin color.
 
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