Right to work laws

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Libertarians support property rights. That's the only right they support. Yet, they have to realize, that the government has to do something to insure that. All the private security in the world isn't going to make up for that, and it's a lot less economically efficient than something that's fucking common sense, like a police force.

 

[Beefy]

I think the general point here is that pansy libertians would mostly end up dead in their dream anarcho-capitalist state.

Not if we killed everyone else first.


Schooled. Again.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

I don't like them which is why ALL states should have a right to work law forbidding manatory union membership and forbidding any pressure by employers to keep workers from unionizing including non anonymous voting on unionization. But as the laws exist now, no I do not object to employers contracting for their employees to do anything that does not violate the rights of the employees nor impinges on their health and safety.

So, in that respect, you're not a libertarian, since that's a regulation that restricts the free market.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Not if we killed everyone else first.


Schooled. Again.

Owned.

 

[Socrtease]

Libertarians support property rights. That's the only right they support. Yet, they have to realize, that the government has to do something to insure that. All the private security in the world isn't going to make up for that, and it's a lot less economically efficient than something that's fucking common sense, like a police force.

I am pretty fricken libertarian but I do not want private police forces, nor private fire departments.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Beefy, honestly, have you ever added anything to any debate for the past year?

You're becoming USCitizen.

 

[Beefy]

So, in that respect, you're not a libertarian, since that's a regulation that restricts the free market.

No spaz, organizations should not be able to write contracts that infringe individual rights, like the free and uncoerced exchange of labor for money. If I want to work, and GM wants me to work, some dopey union should't be able to take that free exchange away, but keep on spazzin in the wind.

 

[Socrtease]

Right to work laws do not keep people from joining unions. They just keep people from forcing others to join the union as well. I do not support laws that force associations.

 

[Beefy]

Beefy, honestly, have you ever added anything to any debate for the past year?

You're becoming USCitizen.

Ouch. I'll try to be more conscious, see above.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

I've got a gun to. I'll just walk up to your bedroom window, blast your brain out, and then walk in and steal your collection of CD's.

Hey, Beefy, that was just hypothetical. The blowing the brains out thing. I don't really like killing people, plus I only kill southerners, lives in other states, such as Hawaii, are worth protecting, and I'm like the punisher in that I only kill people there who kill people, and then only if they're southerners.

SO we're cool right? Non-threatening?

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

No spaz, organizations should not be able to write contracts that infringe individual rights, like the free and uncoerced exchange of labor for money. If I want to work, and GM wants me to work, some dopey union should't be able to take that free exchange away, but keep on spazzin in the wind.

So you want to restrict GM's free right to contract?

 

[Beefy]

Hey, Beefy, that was just hypothetical. The blowing the brains out thing. I don't really like killing people, plus I only kill southerners, lives in other states, such as Hawaii, are worth protecting, and I'm like the punisher in that I only kill people there who kill people, and then only if they're southerners.

SO we're cool right? Non-threatening?

For gods sakes of course. I still don't think that private organizations should be able to write contracts that infringe other individual's rights.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

For gods sakes of course. I still don't think that private organizations should be able to write contracts that infringe other individual's rights.

Their "infringing" on their own rights.

 

[Beefy]

So you want to restrict GM's free right to contract?

No, I want to prevent them from being coerced into forcing all of their labor force to join an organization with or without their will in order to sell their product to GM.

 

[Beefy]

Their "infringing" on their own rights.

No, they're not. They're infringing on the rights of those that may someday work there.

 

[Beefy]

You must not support anti trust legislation then, correct?

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

No, I want to prevent them from being coerced into forcing all of their labor force to join an organization with or without their will in order to sell their product to GM.

Then they shouldn't sign the fucking contract.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

You must not support anti trust legislation then, correct?

The main point here is that you don't support anti-trust legislation.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

No, they're not. They're infringing on the rights of those that may someday work there.

They don't have some kind of right to work there. They have a right to voluntary exchange. The employer has a contract to only accept employment from a certain organization. They signed this voluntarily.

Should we have a "right to suppliers" to? Should individuals be banned from making contracts to supply things to others?

 

[Beefy]

The main point here is that you don't support anti-trust legislation.

Do you? If suppliers of a certain type of labor should be able to price fix their prices for their customers, then why not suppliers of other services?