Right wing states are hell holes.

Jan Sobieski said:
Yes, no, maybe so.

Truth is at least some portion of the cost of living can be included in home prices.
Which gain investment.

Which makes it murkier.
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True, although those at the poverty level are unlikely to own homes in higher cost of living areas.

Some on the right argue the red states subsidize the blue states because blue states have higher state income and property taxes which they can deduct from their federal income taxes.

In a reversal of roles I watched a congressional hearing in which Democrats wanted to repeal the $10,000 maximum for those (state tax) deductions imposed in the 2017 tax cuts. The Republicans opposed the repeal arguing it would mainly benefit the wealthy.
 
Flash said:
True, although those at the poverty level are unlikely to own homes in higher cost of living areas.

Some on the right argue the red states subsidize the blue states because blue states have higher state income and property taxes which they can deduct from their federal income taxes.

In a reversal of roles I watched a congressional hearing in which Democrats wanted to repeal the $10,000 maximum for those (state tax) deductions imposed in the 2017 tax cuts. The Republicans opposed the repeal arguing it would mainly benefit the wealthy.
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To your first sentence, exactly. No one in California who qualifies as living in poverty is owning a home (or if you find someone it's a rare exception) so that argument doesn't hold water.

You can make $15/hr in State A & B but if rent for a 1 bedroom is $1,500/mnth in State A and rent is $750/mnth in State B that is a material difference. And that's what the SPM was created to measure. Without cost of living information wages alone don't tell the whole story.
 
jbander said:
RED are subsidized by BLUE states, Red states have the highest criminal rate, highest murder rate, worst place raise a family, they are the fattest and dumbest, have the highest divorce rate, highest welfare, highest food subsidy , highest hate crimes and hate crime killings, highest number of people on unemployment , worst places for income. and in all terms about the economy electing a right wing president is a total disaster , they are terrible for the economy. You have to be totally anti American to support the hate party. They exist for one reason to transfer every dime of new wealth in this country to the top, so how stupid does it make a right winger if they aren't a 1%er.
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States have no color.
You keep describing Democrat run shithole cities as something Republicans did. Inversion fallacy.
 
archives said:
Hard to invalidate the fact that when comparing federal tax dollars collected to federal money received, Red States get back more money from the Federal Gov’t than do Blue States. No matter how one wants to reframe the statistics, the Blue States pay more and get less in return, and the opposite hold true for Red States

As far as “shitholes,” no matter how one wants to phrase it, in most categories usually judged as negative, the majority of Red States fall at the top of the lists, while again, the opposite holds true for Blue States that have all those supposedly urban “shitholes”

And lastly, America, and its’ history, isn’t defined by its rural landscapes, few if any come here to visit the fields of Indiana, Kansas, nor Mississippi
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Argument of the Stone fallacies.
 
cawacko said:
This is probably just me but not everything is so cut and dry with this idea of blue and red states. There are clearly blue states like California and red states like Texas. But a number of states have elements of purple to them. They may lean one way or the other but aren't necessarily consistently only blue or red. Yet we judge them as if they are like California or Texas.
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Exactly. This 'red/blue' stuff is nothing more than building false dichotomies. It was created by liberals in the media (Democrats) to divide and conquer.

States have no color.

California is no longer a State. It doesn't recognize the Constitution of the United States nor the Constitution of the State of California. I call it the Socialist Oligarchy of the Territory of California (SOTC) now.
 
gemini104104 said:
bs and 2017 statistics are stale data. Yet as of 2021 adjustment, currently the top ten states with the highest poverty rate and of course mostly so-called red or repuke led states:

Here are the 10 states with the highest poverty rates:
New Mexico (18.63%)
West Virginia (17.54%)
Kentucky (16.67%)
Arkansas (16.36%)
Alabama (16.13%)
Oklahoma (15.00%)
Tennessee (14.36%)
Georgia (14.11%)

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/poverty-rate-by-state

Here are the 10 richest states, and all blue states:

New York ($88,349)
Massachusetts ($85,400)
Washington ($81,059)
Connecticut ($79,824)
California ($78,771)
Delaware ($77,214)
New Jersey ($70,501)
Maryland ($70,500)
North Dakota ($70,185)
Illinois ($69,667)
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/richest-states-in-usa
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https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/slideshows/10-wealthiest-states-in-america?slide=2

INCORRECT: The 10 Richest States (website is from the bottom of your website.... it says sources, click on it and you will get this) correct list for the richest states.
1. Maryland - Blue
2. Mass. - Blue
3. New Jersey - Blue (N.J. named best state to live in by national website-Jun 15, 2021) https://www.nj.com/news/2021/06/nj-named-best-state-to-live-in-by-national-website.html
4. Hawaii - Blue
5. California - Blue
6. Conn.- Blue
7. Washington State - Blue
8. New Hampshire - Blue
9. Colorado - Blue
10. Virginia - Blue

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/slideshows/10-wealthiest-states-in-america?slide=2
 
50USA said:
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/slideshows/10-wealthiest-states-in-america?slide=2

INCORRECT: The 10 Richest States (website is from the bottom of your website.... it says sources, click on it and you will get this) correct list for the richest states.
1. Maryland - Blue
2. Mass. - Blue
3. New Jersey - Blue (N.J. named best state to live in by national website-Jun 15, 2021) https://www.nj.com/news/2021/06/nj-named-best-state-to-live-in-by-national-website.html
4. Hawaii - Blue
5. California - Blue
6. Conn.- Blue
7. Washington State - Blue
8. New Hampshire - Blue
9. Colorado - Blue
10. Virginia - Blue

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/slideshows/10-wealthiest-states-in-america?slide=2
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New Jersey the best state!!??
How!?
 
gemini104104 said:
Hellhole so-called red states absolutely, especially as a result of repuke leadership enabling the spread and increase in covid-19 infections that has the potential of spreading nationally and beyond. Obviously repukes do not care about anyone, including the idiots that vote for them against their own interests who are ultimately at fault for the current threat against the well being of society and humanity at putting seditious, insane and destructive repukes in office.
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all of them that are dying are people who didn't get vaccinated , so that's good for this countries gene pool.
 
Flash said:
Dividing them into red and blue allows the haters to make black-white distinctions for partisan reasons.

Unlike gender, they accept the binary distinction in this category.
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The most republican states are the biggest disasters out there in just about every aspect. It is red a blue. Red bad , blue good. You put red on one side and blue on the other and everyone can see clearly what the better group is. all the numbers are there.
 
jbander said:
The most republican states are the biggest disasters out there in just about every aspect. It is red a blue. Red bad , blue good. You put red on one side and blue on the other and everyone can see clearly what the better group is. all the numbers are there.
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The poorest states were poor when they were solidly Democratic. They were just as bad disasters then--plus segregated.
 
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