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I will not support any organization or business that supports things that I consider harmful. That said I do not think Mary Kays affirmation of God is a bad thing. However it may be warranted to look deeper into it.

However I prefer to avoid companies that directly do unethical things like Wal-Mart, Electronic Arts, Monsanto, or McDonalds and all the insurance companies that fucked over Katrina victims like nationwide, allstate and State Farm.
 
I try to be responsible with what I support. For example I encouraged people not to see Mission Impossible III because Cruise got money directly related to the gate which of course would have ended up in the Coffers of the Church of Scientology.
 
IHateGovernment said:
I will not support any organization or business that supports things that I consider harmful. That said I do not think Mary Kays affirmation of God is a bad thing. However it may be warranted to look deeper into it.

However I prefer to avoid companies that directly do unethical things like Wal-Mart, Electronic Arts, Monsanto, or McDonalds and all the insurance companies that fucked over Katrina victims like nationwide, allstate and State Farm.
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i am with you on this too!
 
Damocles said:
I wasn't speaking to rights here. I personally wouldn't buy from somebody who supported the KKK, or some super left-wing agenda and made a big deal of it. Just as others wouldn't donate to somebody who made a point of their donations to right-wing charities.

I was just wondering at what level people might go to avoid it.

If I liked the Dixie Chicks I'd buy their albums regardless of their political persuasion. I don't though.
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I still go see Clint Eastwood's movies. You know why? He's a kick-ass, great, filmaker.

You are confusing what I'm saying.

It's only if I find that someone is a big contributer to right wing causes. I do not boycott people because of their political beliefs.
 
IHateGovernment said:
I will not support any organization or business that supports things that I consider harmful. That said I do not think Mary Kays affirmation of God is a bad thing. However it may be warranted to look deeper into it.

However I prefer to avoid companies that directly do unethical things like Wal-Mart, Electronic Arts, Monsanto, or McDonalds and all the insurance companies that fucked over Katrina victims like nationwide, allstate and State Farm.
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Very well said.
 
Cypress said:
The wierd thing about the chicks boycott, is that it was all over some off-handed comment about them not liking Bush.

That's an insult on bush. Bush isn't the wife, girlfriend, or brother of any of those country music listeners. Why did they take it so personally? Is bush their deity? The insult wasn't even directed at the fans. If Bono said he was embarrassed of Clinton, it wouldn't even occur to me to stop listening to U2 music.

On the other hand, things like abortion right impact every single american, and many people do take that personally.
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Yes, also very well said, thanks.
 
Darla said:
I still go see Clint Eastwood's movies. You know why? He's a kick-ass, great, filmaker.

You are confusing what I'm saying.

It's only if I find that someone is a big contributer to right wing causes. I do not boycott people because of their political beliefs.
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I was simply asking questions, feeling out the position, finding out how far people were willing to go to support such a suggested position. Much like I could never avoid buying something from somebody who supports left-wing causes, nobody could avoid giving to all right-wing supporters. So, basically I was just seeing where the limits of your personal policy is.

And as a side was mentioning how so many trashed people who refused to listen to the Dixie Chicks as "bad people" because they were just exercising their rights...
 
IHateGovernment said:
I will not support any organization or business that supports things that I consider harmful. That said I do not think Mary Kays affirmation of God is a bad thing. However it may be warranted to look deeper into it.

However I prefer to avoid companies that directly do unethical things like Wal-Mart, Electronic Arts, Monsanto, or McDonalds and all the insurance companies that fucked over Katrina victims like nationwide, allstate and State Farm.
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Likewise I won't eat Domino's Pizza -- not that this is a sacrifice, you understand -- and I try to inform my female colleagues of Gary Heavin's beliefs if I happen to find out they go to Curves. I can honestly say I've helped 3 or 4 see the light and switch to another gym. Not that Curves is hurting any, but it's the principle of the thing.
 
Damocles said:
I was simply asking questions, feeling out the position, finding out how far people were willing to go to support such a suggested position. Much like I could never avoid buying something from somebody who supports left-wing causes, nobody could avoid giving to all right-wing supporters. So, basically I was just seeing where the limits of your personal policy is.

And as a side was mentioning how so many trashed people who refused to listen to the Dixie Chicks as "bad people" because they were just exercising their rights...
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Not because they exercised their rights but because what they believed was stupid and immoral.
 
OrnotBitwise said:
Likewise I won't eat Domino's Pizza -- not that this is a sacrifice, you understand -- and I try to inform my female colleagues of Gary Heavin's beliefs if I happen to find out they go to Curves. I can honestly say I've helped 3 or 4 see the light and switch to another gym. Not that Curves is hurting any, but it's the principle of the thing.
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Very cool! Me too with Curves Ornot. And, I have yet to meet one woman who knew this about Curves.
 
Almost all Curves are owned by Franchisers. You do little to hurt Gary, and much to hurt the small business owner who might share your beliefs.
 
Damocles said:
Almost all Curves are owned by Franchisers. You do little to hurt Gary, and much to hurt the small business owner who might share your beliefs.
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Tough. Many people do not want a single dime of their money going to anyone who would even sit at a table with a member of Operation Save America, let alone someone who'd contribute hundreds of thousands of dollars to that cause.
 
Likewise I won't eat Domino's Pizza -- not that this is a sacrifice, you understand -- and I try to inform my female colleagues of Gary Heavin's beliefs if I happen to find out they go to Curves. I can honestly say I've helped 3 or 4 see the light and switch to another gym. Not that Curves is hurting any, but it's the principle of the thing.

Whats the deal with Curves? Is Heavin the Dominoes guy?
 
IHateGovernment said:
Likewise I won't eat Domino's Pizza -- not that this is a sacrifice, you understand -- and I try to inform my female colleagues of Gary Heavin's beliefs if I happen to find out they go to Curves. I can honestly say I've helped 3 or 4 see the light and switch to another gym. Not that Curves is hurting any, but it's the principle of the thing.

Whats the deal with Curves? Is Heavin the Dominoes guy?
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Gary Heavin is the founder and CEO of Curves. He is openly a major contributor to Operation Save America, arguably the most extreme and violent of the major anti-abortion groups. While the urban legend that 10% of Curves' profits goes directly to OSA is patently untrue, the Heavins do indeed support that group.
 
Damocles said:
He's a Libertarian. They just think that anybody not a D or a Green must be a far righty.
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Thanks Damo!

Next, can you tell IHG what I think about the French existentialists?

I know that Eastwood is a Libertarian. I would never finacially support someone whom I knew donated to Libertarian groups who worked towards a regressive tax system, and to end social safety programs.

But I would not boycott someone, just because they held those beliefs.
 
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