Romney Picks VP
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He's an attack dog and the right love him.. (ya know who's sporting a woody right now don't you.. LOL Ryan is his man-crush)..
but, even the R strategists this week were poo-poo'ing the idea because he's too young and in no way ready to be POTUS and while the right love him, they'd be wary of that.. Not that I believed it because I think Ryan gives Romney the 'fiscal' cred he doesn't have..and today it isn't about who can be President, who is too fringe to be president, it's who can beat Obama at any cost..
but it's going to hurt... Ryan also wanted to change medicare forever, raise the age of SS to 70 and on the other side, he believes gays are born that way and he voted for the auto-bailout .. and what remains to be seen is whether the extremist, smart version of Sarah Palin will help or hurt Romney come November..
I'll say this.. I'm looking forward to Veep debate...
I like the pick. Ryan is an idea guy and we need that now. Obama has offered nothing but vague suggestions that we simply ignore the worsening financial crisis and continue doing the same thing that caused it.
This pick shows that Romney might actually challenge the general governing philosophy, at least in the campaign. It's too bad we will have two hacks in Romney and Ryan representing the good guys but the Obama's argument is so weak that it might not matter.
This pick shows that Romney might actually challenge the general governing philosophy, at least in the campaign. It's too bad we will have two hacks in Romney and Ryan representing the good guys but the Obama's argument is so weak that it might not matter.
Yup. For Obama! w00t!
He's an attack dog and the right love him.. (ya know who's sporting a woody right now don't you.. LOL Ryan is his man-crush)..
but, even the R strategists this week were poo-poo'ing the idea because he's too young and in no way ready to be POTUS and while the right love him, they'd be wary of that.. Not that I believed it because I think Ryan gives Romney the 'fiscal' cred he doesn't have..and today it isn't about who can be President, who is too fringe to be president, it's who can beat Obama at any cost..
but it's going to hurt... Ryan also wanted to change medicare forever, raise the age of SS to 70 and on the other side, he believes gays are born that way and he voted for the auto-bailout .. and what remains to be seen is whether the extremist, smart version of Sarah Palin will help or hurt Romney come November..
I'll say this.. I'm looking forward to Veep debate...
I'm sure he's got a lil Boner too...This is from five minutes ago.
He's also mentioned what you said about inexperience. idk...he's probably got more smarts than Palin and about equal in experience.
Like I said earlier, I'm waiting for him to say he can see Canada from his front porch.
it's more than that... in Ohio, in high (R) counties the two (D) voted with the 2 (R) to give more time for early voters.. and then the 2 (R) in highly (R) areas voted to not allow the extra time.. when it came to that tie-breaker, the (R) Sec of State also voted 'no'... so now in Ohio, the R's get early voting and the D's don't..
This level of open crookery is pretty awesome to witness..
I don't have a problem with that.. I'd like to see a pro/con on means testing .. same with a uni healthcare system, that'd knock off some money as well..
I'm good with figuring out ways to make SS and Medicare better.. but a voucher program isn't it.
That surprises me.. 2 years ago, he was in love with the man and that was who he 'picked' to be the potus nominee of his dreams..
wonder what changed..
christiefan915
Catalyst
Never held a real job? You haven't done your homework, baby. Or else you've never seen the inside of a university.
ekg...
So you support more obstructionism and the do nothing approach of the left? Maybe you think Obama should push single payer system like the ones they have in Europe? Good luck with getting people to believe that following Europe is still a good idea.
I think the voucher is a great idea. Cost controls never work and a market without good prices is dysfunctional and not remotely free. But it is only part of the solution. There are so many problems piled upon problems, due to years of statist fixers working their "magic" and rigging the system so that it's benefits are concentrated on a small group, that it will take many revisions and years of reform to restore a stable market.
So you support more obstructionism and the do nothing approach of the left? Maybe you think Obama should push single payer system like the ones they have in Europe? Good luck with getting people to believe that following Europe is still a good idea.
I think the voucher is a great idea. Cost controls never work and a market without good prices is dysfunctional and not remotely free. But it is only part of the solution. There are so many problems piled upon problems, due to years of statist fixers working their "magic" and rigging the system so that it's benefits are concentrated on a small group, that it will take many revisions and years of reform to restore a stable market.
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What sort of experience do you need to be Vice President? Do you need that much or more to be President? Honestly, would you feel safe if Biden were President? Really?
The experience issue is not going to resonate this time. It was a bit more relevant with a man of McCain's age and health.
The experience issue is not going to resonate this time. It was a bit more relevant with a man of McCain's age and health.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
That's a mhythology. SS is an easy fix. It's just having the political will to fix it. Medicare is going to be impacted from reforms via the ACA. We're headed in the right direction. There's no reason the American public can't keep their promise of these two social contracts. Lord knows we can afford them.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Absolutely! It's not just Europe. All the industrialized nations in the world use a single payer system. Except the US. Don't try playing off xenophobia and anti-european sentiment. Try sticking to the facts and the facts are that every inustrialized nation who has implemented a single payer systems has seen dramtic improvement in health care outcomes and substantial lowering in costs. When it comes to health care you uninformed. This "the market can fix everything" is a fantasy. WAKE UP!
Again, all modern industrialized nations have incorporated cost controls in health care? Why? Cause if the market could fix this problem we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Repeat after me and rinse. The market has failed to contain costs in health care. The Market has failed to contain cost in health care. The market has failed to contain cost in health care and it's time for us to adopt the reforms that have worked very well for the rest of the world.
This libertarian free market religious worship isn't going to solve the problem or it would have done so by now!
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
A horrid choice that panders to the exteme and guarantees Obama the election.
Nobody has/had less experience than Hussein had. Your information comes straight out of your ass.
First: Cut the "statist" crap. If the founding fathers wanted each state to be autonomous, it wouldn't be called the United States of America.
Second: Obama favored the single payor system first. Obamacare came to being as a result of compromise with the right. A single payor system, let's call it Medicare for All, would rein in costs, improve service, and cut fraud.
Our country falls far behind other nations in the world in two areas: health care and education. Why? Because we don't have national systems of either.
Finally: A voucher system won't work. Period. Why? Because the numbers are limited. What will Granny do when that $5700 (or whatever figure) runs out?
Roll over and die?????
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
I agree. It will be a non-issue this time around.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
That was my initial knee jerk but no that I think about it. Maybe not. From the electoral stand point Romney was far behind. This is an exciting ticket of two you energetic executives who have demonstrated ability. This isn't no Bush/Cheney. In chess parlance this is called a gambit. A neat bit of strategy by Romney. It's a damned risky one though but what the hell, as is, he was loosing. It will be interesting to see how this works out.
The risk for Romney is that this is an all or nothing gambit. The next move is Obama's. Will he except the gambit or decline it? I'm thinking he'll accept the gambit but that's just common sense. The question I have is strategic. What does Romney have up his sleeve?
You already touched on it. He has nothing to lose. At this point, the only logical thing to do is stay true to the Right.