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The Almighty
pot... kettle
Romney's attitude....
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pot... kettle
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
do you actually think there's a lie in there somewhere?.....if so, point it out.....if not, tell us why you said so.........
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Romney as the nominee doesn't bother me nearly as much as the possibility of 4 more years under Obama. I actually think Romney brings a lot to the table for pro-business conservatives, even though he's a little light in the loafers on social conservatism... sorry, no pun intended there. In every poll I see, Romney seems to be most suitable to compete against Obama in the general, and I have to be reminded of the Buckley Rule... nominate the most conservative candidate WHO CAN WIN. I don't know that Santorum can win... maybe he could over Obama? My guess is, it would be a much closer election for sure.
Now, I do like Santorum, I voted for him in the primary here. I hope that Newt drops out and Santorum can pull off the upset over Romney, but I am not laying awake at night worried about it, and I won't need to be put on suicide watch if Santorum doesn't win. I'm really fine with however it plays out, and I do believe whoever the nominee is, they can certainly beat the idiot currently in the White House.
If Santorum wins, he will be portrayed as a religious-right wacko... as this is already happening to some degree. If Romney wins, he will be portrayed as an out-of-touch fat cat. So, either way, we are going to have to endure the rhetoric and media manipulations. The reason I lean more toward Santorum, is I believe he can best articulate why social conservative values are important to conservatism in general, and this is something I don't think Romney gets... therefore, he will be exploited for it. Watch and see, if Romney is the nominee, I predict liberals will construct some kind of social conservative trap for him, where he will ultimately take an unpopular stance on a social conservative issue, and alienate some base voters. The same will happen to Santorum should he win, but he will defend the social conservative issue and rally those same base voters. Here's where it gets tricky... which is more important, social conservative votes or moderate independent votes? What does "the base" have more of? Santorum's ability to appeal (and secure) the social conservative vote, is the main reason I am supporting him over Romney. Ideally, we would want a candidate who appeals to both social conservatives and moderate independents, but the liberals are going to pull out every dirty trick in the book, we will not be allowed to have an untarnished candidate, whoever is nominated will be thoroughly trashed by the left. Santorum is accustomed to this, he has been taking cheap shots his whole career... Romney has hardly been touched. In any fight, I will take the guy who is used to fighting and I know can take a punch!
Then I get to thinking... we probably ought to be nominating a real pit bull like Newt! We need to aggressively go after these socialist bastards, and Newt has the smarts (and the balls) to do that in a head-to-head confrontation.
Now, I do like Santorum, I voted for him in the primary here. I hope that Newt drops out and Santorum can pull off the upset over Romney, but I am not laying awake at night worried about it, and I won't need to be put on suicide watch if Santorum doesn't win. I'm really fine with however it plays out, and I do believe whoever the nominee is, they can certainly beat the idiot currently in the White House.
If Santorum wins, he will be portrayed as a religious-right wacko... as this is already happening to some degree. If Romney wins, he will be portrayed as an out-of-touch fat cat. So, either way, we are going to have to endure the rhetoric and media manipulations. The reason I lean more toward Santorum, is I believe he can best articulate why social conservative values are important to conservatism in general, and this is something I don't think Romney gets... therefore, he will be exploited for it. Watch and see, if Romney is the nominee, I predict liberals will construct some kind of social conservative trap for him, where he will ultimately take an unpopular stance on a social conservative issue, and alienate some base voters. The same will happen to Santorum should he win, but he will defend the social conservative issue and rally those same base voters. Here's where it gets tricky... which is more important, social conservative votes or moderate independent votes? What does "the base" have more of? Santorum's ability to appeal (and secure) the social conservative vote, is the main reason I am supporting him over Romney. Ideally, we would want a candidate who appeals to both social conservatives and moderate independents, but the liberals are going to pull out every dirty trick in the book, we will not be allowed to have an untarnished candidate, whoever is nominated will be thoroughly trashed by the left. Santorum is accustomed to this, he has been taking cheap shots his whole career... Romney has hardly been touched. In any fight, I will take the guy who is used to fighting and I know can take a punch!
Then I get to thinking... we probably ought to be nominating a real pit bull like Newt! We need to aggressively go after these socialist bastards, and Newt has the smarts (and the balls) to do that in a head-to-head confrontation.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Well Ron Paul isn't going to be the nominee in this universe and reality. Now.... if you smoke a lot of pot, or a little crack... maybe in THAT universe, Ron can win the nomination... just saying.
We've been over this before, but one more time... Ron Paul cooked his own goose when he wouldn't shut up about the wars. Plain and simple. If he had just backed off that line a bit, and focused more on his 'limited smaller government' message, he might have had a legitimate shot. He chose not to, and instead, began to sound like a fucking anti-war hippie liberal. I could do a really good DirectTV commercial on this one... when you sound like an anti-war hippie liberal, your schedule frees up... when your schedule frees up, you grow a scraggly beard... when you grow a scraggly beard, you start taking in stray animals... when you start taking in stray animals, you consider voting for Ron Paul!! lol
is that your prediction or hope
it is way too soon to tell
what do you think will happen if we have to go to war with iran before the election - obama will pick up votes if he does even though i hope that we do not have to - but it is not looking good for peace
Are you saying that Obama has been holding off doing anything about Iran so he can attack them just before the election so he can win?
Airstrip One
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Ron Paul, MD