Ron Paul and the NeoConfederate Movement

TheDanold said:
Then you are wrong, they endorsed him and they would not kill the best hope they had of getting Bush out of power.
Perhaps they might behead him after the election because he failed to win.
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Well not only are you a dbag...it turns out you are also retarded. Bush is the best thing that EVER happened to them.
 
TheDanold said:
You really do need to stop your lying deceit.


Stop your lying, Asshat already posted proof that Al-Qaida endorsed Kerry and Darla acknowledged it.
And that isn't why I'm pissed, I just don't like how you deceive about it and present the whole thing so innocently.


I'm sure you remember back on politics.com the moron called 'skinhead', he labelled himself a Democrat who would support Democrats. Why? Because he supported their policy on abortion believing more black babies would get aborted.
So to try and be stupid like you I will say:

"Its fine if you think that the plethora of skinheads that support the Democrat party, says nothing about them or their policies. They like them and their policies. That's just a simple fact. Take it for what you will. I know I have."
Deceitful fuck.


Then you are wrong, they endorsed him and they would not kill the best hope they had of getting Bush out of power.
Perhaps they might behead him after the election because he failed to win.
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Dano - Did you read AssHat's "proof?" The third paragraph:

Furthermore [bin Ladenn] exposed himself as a CIA / Illuminati asset by taking responsibility for 9-11 and praising Mohamed Atta as the "overall commander."
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I'm going to go out on a limb and question the source on this one.
 
Blackflag said:
Well not only are you a dbag...it turns out you are also retarded. Bush is the best thing that EVER happened to them.
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This is like saying that Hitler was the best thing that ever happened to the Communists in Russia because it solidified Russian support for them.
That is retarded, the reality is the Communist Party hated Hitler for invading their country and threatening their hold on the country.

Same stupid logic with your common leftwing delusion, that Al-Qaida would love Bush because they got so many supporters. The reality is that Bush is a threat to any of their ability to hold power in Iraq and they want America out and whichever leader in America will most make that happen.

You have to be able to differentiate between motive and effect.


And yeah I do detest cypress and his sly slandering attempts, I've never denied I have a temper either.
 
It wasn't deceitful. Cypress posted exactly what stormfront said and I understood, because I can read, that they endorsed him because he supports policies that allow "White Nationalism to flourish" without necessarily supporting White Nationalism.

Then you go on and tell us what Cypress' quote told us and say he was being deceitful. Then you threaten him oliver the place like you have some right.
 
TheDanold said:
This is like saying that Hitler was the best thing that ever happened to the Communists in Russia because it solidified Russian support for them.
That is retarded, the reality is the Communist Party hated Hitler for invading their country and threatening their hold on the country.

Same stupid logic with your common leftwing delusion, that Al-Qaida would love Bush because they got so many supporters. The reality is that Bush is a threat to any of their ability to hold power in Iraq and they want America out and whichever leader in America will most make that happen.

You have to be able to differentiate between motive and effect.


And yeah I do detest cypress and his sly slandering attempts, I've never denied I have a temper either.
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It is simple, without Bush Al-Quaeda would be a has been. We would have invaded Afghan and that is it.

We wouldn't have invaded Iraq and so there would be no rallying cry for their hate.
 
Blackflag said:
It is simple, without Bush Al-Quaeda would be a has been. We would have invaded Afghan and that is it.
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Certainly you are right they would be at less strength, but that does not mean they are not happy. You are forgetting their goals, they want the US out of (perceived) Islamic territory.

Let's try this a different way. Is my goal to have as many Libertarians as possible or to have less government? I'm sure having more government (as we have had) swelled the number of Libertarians a little, should I be rejoicing and thanking Bush and Demopublicans for how many followers we now have? Or would I be much happier with less government, even if it meant a less strong Libertarian movement?
 
TheDanold said:
Certainly you are right they would be at less strength, but that does not mean they are not happy. You are forgetting their goals, they want the US out of (perceived) Islamic territory.

Let's try this a different way. Is my goal to have as many Libertarians as possible or to have less government? I'm sure having more government (as we have had) swelled the number of Libertarians a little, should I be rejoicing and thanking Bush and Demopublicans for how many followers we now have? Or would I be much happier with less government, even if it meant a less strong Libertarian movement?
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You are assuming that Al Quaeda really wants us out. I don't think that is true. That is just rhetoric they use to get more followers. I think their real goal is to unite the Middle East under Al-Qaeda which they can only do if we stay there and meddle, which will drive more moderates to them.
 
Paul is not only endorsed by some of the most vile and racist hate groups on the plane, he also PARTICIPATES in events with them, including the neo-confederate movement.

I dare a Ronbot to challenge that.

If Paul is not the racist he sure as hell smells to be .. as the Paultards claim .. someone, anyone post ONE SINGLE COMMENT by Paul where he repudiates and distances himself from those groups. He has repudiated civil rights organizations and he repudiated the 9/11 truth groups who some tried to tie him to .. why doesn't he repudiate the hate groups? There have been lots of people over the years who have asked him to do just that .. but he hasn't and he never will.

Why did it take him FIVE YEARS to say that some of the most racist comments I have ever heard .. posted in HIS newsletter, "weren't his words?"

This is well-known and documented information about him and it's silly to believe that everybody is as blind and delusional as those who support him.

It would honest for those who support him to simply say they don't give a damn that he's a racist and don't give a damn that their support for him is support for the vile groups.

Yet they wonder why the vast majority of his support comes from white males.

They wonder why he's stuck at 2%.

They wonder why so many call him a loony and are disgusted by him.

The good news is that he's 72 years old and is far closer to being dead than he will ever be to becoming the president.
 
Blackflag said:
You are assuming that Al Quaeda really wants us out. I don't think that is true. That is just rhetoric they use to get more followers. I think their real goal is to unite the Middle East under Al-Qaeda which they can only do if we stay there and meddle, which will drive more moderates to them.
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If they didn't want us out, they would not be fighting us there would they?
They probably do want to unite the middle east but they need a starting "base" to be able to govern from, train freely in, etc.... Sort of like what they were allowed to do in a part of Afghanistan in pre Sep 11th time.

Do you think Saladin welcomed Richard I and Philip and other crusaders because it meant he got more followers? Or do you think he detested them and fought hard to expel them?
Come on man, this is conspiracy territory.
 
It isn't conspiracy theory. It is fact that Al-Quaeda has more followers since the Iraq war. It is what Al-Quaeda needed. How is that conspiracy theory. I'm not claiming that the US conspired with him. I have said no such thing.

Of course they will continue to fight us. Think about it. THey keep fighting us and keep getting larger or we leave the ME and they go back to irrelevency. Which do you think the Al-Quaeda leadership prefers?
 
Blackflag said:
It isn't conspiracy theory. It is fact that Al-Quaeda has more followers since the Iraq war. It is what Al-Quaeda needed. How is that conspiracy theory. I'm not claiming that the US conspired with him. I have said no such thing.

Of course they will continue to fight us. Think about it. THey keep fighting us and keep getting larger or we leave the ME and they go back to irrelevency. Which do you think the Al-Quaeda leadership prefers?
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The 2 strongest STATED goals of bin Laden were ending the US support of Israel and expelling American troops from muslim (at the time Saudi) soil. The US leaving fulfills his 2nd goal, what does he care if his followers diminish when his goals are already met?

You are trying to make the argument that they are in power for power's sake.
Al-Qaida exists because it has (to them) goals that they wish to do, the MEANS to do those goals (like higher number of recruits or more money) becomes irrelevant if they can accomplish those goals with or without them.

What would you prefer, more money going towards paying off your mortgage or having the mortgage completely paid off?
It's not an argument that makes any sense.
 
"You are trying to make the argument that they are in power for power's sake."

Yes that is what I believe. I don't believe he is the noble man that he or you claim. It is just my opinion though.
 
blackascoal said:
Paul is not only endorsed by some of the most vile and racist hate groups on the plane, he also PARTICIPATES in events with them, including the neo-confederate movement.

I dare a Ronbot to challenge that.

If Paul is not the racist he sure as hell smells to be .. as the Paultards claim .. someone, anyone post ONE SINGLE COMMENT by Paul where he repudiates and distances himself from those groups. He has repudiated civil rights organizations and he repudiated the 9/11 truth groups who some tried to tie him to .. why doesn't he repudiate the hate groups? There have been lots of people over the years who have asked him to do just that .. but he hasn't and he never will.
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Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans only as members of groups and never as individuals. Racists believe that all individual who share superficial physical characteristics are alike; as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. - Ron Paul
 
Blackflag said:
I admit that I could be wrong too.
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Do you think the Dems have the same thinking - that keeping the Iraq war around and going just keeps drawing more supporters and recruits to them? That if they are in it for power, they have not as much to gain by ending the Iraq war?

Not a sarcastic question, just curious on your thoughts.
 
TheDanold said:
Do you think the Dems have the same thinking - that keeping the Iraq war around and going just keeps drawing more supporters and recruits to them? That if they are in it for power, they have not as much to gain by ending the Iraq war?

Not a sarcastic question, just curious on your thoughts.
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Well I think that it benefits them to keep it going until after the election. So yeah I agree with your premise.
 
RStringfield said:
Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans only as members of groups and never as individuals. Racists believe that all individual who share superficial physical characteristics are alike; as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. - Ron Paul
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As I was reading this I realized that this is how liberals are. "All whites are racist even if subliminally" is what their so called "smart people" write. They're racist trash.
 
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