Ron Paul Revolution!

Hi Cypress. No I haven't been to any other sites in a long while, so I don't know what is going on with that. The thing about Paul is that I have always known he is a radical libertarian and because I have always known what a radical libertarian is, I never became blinded by his opposition to the iraqi war. I have had people in the peace movement, liberals, talk about Ron Paul to me, and I could not believe my ears. I just cut that right off. I did not know about his problematic racial history until bac's posts, which I read carefully and went to the links provided in them. What has sickened me is I have personally seen RS and AdamWeinberg completly ignore all of that evidence, as if it was never posted, and continue to dismiss any mention of Paul being a racist iwth "rubbish, provide evidence" and then it's the same old circle dance over again.

Those are his flying monkeys and I say f them, what is important is that people who aren't ronbots get the message. And I make certain that any liberals in the anti-war movement I run into who have anything good to say about Ron Paul do get that message.
 
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Ron Paul has nothing on Duncan Hunter...Duncan was on Glen Beck yesterday...he is making his move...hoo rah...he is cool but not a vegetarian...Red Meat will win this time around!:p
 
Darla said:
Hi Cypress. No I haven't been to any other sites in a long while, so I don't know what is going on with that. The thing about Paul is that I have always known he is a radical libertarian and because I have always known what a radical libertarian is, I never became blinded by his opposition to the iraqi war. I have had people in the peace movement, liberals, talk about Ron Paul to me, and I could not believe my ears. I just cut that right off. I did not know about his problematic racial history until bac's posts, which I read carefully and went to the links provided in them. What has sickened me is I have personally seen RS and AdamWeinberg completly ignore all of that evidence, as if it was never posted, and continue to dismiss any mention of Paul being a racist iwth "rubbish, provide evidence" and then it's the same old circle dance over again.

Those are his flying monkeys and I say f them, what is important is that people who aren't ronbots get the message. And I make certain that any liberals in the anti-war movement I run into who have anything good to say about Ron Paul do get that message.
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Well said, and I agree. I'm glad you posted this. I always found Paul far right libertarianism to be objectionable to sane, modern people. But, I must admit, I've only recently become aware of the support he has with the far reactionary right. And that guy you posted nailed it: Paul speaks for those people, whether or not he is a racist himself. I kind of had that gut feeling myself, but your guy nails it:

the argument isn't that Paul is a racist per se, but that he is an extremist who shares a belief system held not just by racists but other anti-government zealots as well. Paul is identified with their causes not simply because he speaks to them, but because he elucidates ideas and positions -- especially regarding the IRS, the UN, the gold standard, and education -- identical to theirs. This is why he has their rabid support. There is an underlying reason, after all, that Paul attracts backers like David Duke and the Stormfront gang: he talks like them.
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He is not guilty by association of being a kook because an entire exaltation of kooks follows him around.

Great!


He is a kook because he's one of them, and he came to his kookhood through the same Martian theories of constitutionalism common to the guys who run around Michigan in camo, waving their AKs and waiting for the final battle with Kofi Annan's robot zombie army.

Gee, no guilt by associatio reference there whatsoever. :rolleyes:
 
Beefy said:
He is not guilty by association of being a kook because an entire exaltation of kooks follows him around.

Great!


He is a kook because he's one of them, and he came to his kookhood through the same Martian theories of constitutionalism common to the guys who run around Michigan in camo, waving their AKs and waiting for the final battle with Kofi Annan's robot zombie army.

Gee, no guilt by associatio reference there whatsoever. :rolleyes:
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Beefy, if you read Darla's entire link, and the stuff BAC has posted, I don't see how you can perceive the above statements as inconsistent.

A candidate is NOT neccessarily responsible if a few kooks plan on voting for him. The candidate IS responsible, if he covorts with, hangs out with, and attends fundraising dinners with far rightwing reactionary, and neoconfederate groups.

In short, you can tell a lot about somebody, by who they hang out with.
 
Cypress said:
Beefy, if you read Darla's entire link, and the stuff BAC has posted, I don't see how you can perceive the above statements as inconsistent.

A candidate is NOT neccessarily responsible if a few kooks plan on voting for him. The candidate IS responsible, if he covorts with, hangs out with, and attends fundraising dinners with far rightwing reactionary, and neoconfederate groups.

In short, you can tell a lot about somebody, by who they hang out with.
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Thus, guilt by association.

I'm merely pointing out that the author of the peice quoted by the hot, luscious Darla, claims that he is not using guilt by association, BY using guilt by association.
 
I understand you like Ron Paul beefy. And that's cool.

I must admit that I think I was one of those naive liberals, who didn't pay attention to the rightwing extremist nature of his vision for america, or the extremists that he cavorts with.

To each his own though! :clink:
 
Cypress said:
I understand you like Ron Paul beefy. And that's cool.

I must admit that I think I was one of those naive liberals, who didn't pay attention to the rightwing extremist nature of his vision for america, or the extremists that he cavorts with.

To each his own though! :clink:
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Red herring. I was merely pointing out the flaw in the authors reasoning.

And everyone knows you ARE a naive liberal! Is there any other kind? :clink:
 
c'mon beefy, make this fun. Pretend I'm BAC - I know you've gotten into some fisticuffs defending ron paul's views with BAC. Let's rumble!


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j/k - I'm bailing for the evening. :clink:
 
[Consiteritive talk raido just confirms it and fills in the blanks. You still have to have some wisdom to read between some lines--but this country need consertavite talk radio--a lot.]

Conservative talk radio is almost entirely spin. Its the dishonest leading the dimwitted.

[I try to listen to NPR once in a while--I just think you libs are all insane. Some stuff is good--like Tom Hartman speaking up agains the attack on the middle class (and if you don't believe it--try working in a private sector for a living--maby get some friends in theMAJORITY class and have a beer with them.), but as a whole---I don't know a lib who has opinions on how things should be---whos opinions, if emplimented, would not effect me in a negative way.]


Really? What about NPR didn't you like, specifically? Personally, I highly doubt you've listened to much NPR at all. It is far closer to "fair and balanced" than anything else you could put forth.

I sincerely suggest that you bring up these so-called liberal ideas that would impact you in a negative way, one by one, in separate threads, and honestly debate them. I doubt you'd be able to honestly support your statements.

[Can't I take care of myself (and help direct neighbors if in need, when I am in a good mood), instead of taking care of you welfare recipients? Yes--socialized health care is welfare. The only people who want it are people on welfare, and people who want power]

Funny, the very same car manufacturers that you quote later in your thread want socialized medicine. We can't compete with countries who provide it.

[All others who want it, got sucked in with the sympathy card, and are on the edge of welfare right now. Health care is not a right. You have to be insane to believe it is. Bigger government leads to a poorer people, and theMAJORITY suffers.]

There are several countries with a higher standard of living than The US, and they all have socialized medicine. In fact, The US is the ONLY industrialized nation without it. Truthfully, kid, you really don't seem to have a clue about that which you speak.
 
Cypress said:
c'mon beefy, make this fun. Pretend I'm BAC - I know you've gotten into some fisticuffs defending ron paul's views with BAC. Let's rumble!


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j/k - I'm bailing for the evening. :clink:
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I thought I WAS making this fun.

More millionaires than ever, because of Ron Paul!!! :clink:
 
Beefy said:
Thus, guilt by association.

I'm merely pointing out that the author of the peice quoted by the hot, luscious Darla, claims that he is not using guilt by association, BY using guilt by association.
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LOL

I see. I feel you are trying to ascertain I don't argue with you by referring to me as the "hot luscious darla", thus disarming me before I can really get going.

I will have to come up with something to render this new tactic ineffective. Let me think about it.
 
Agnosticus_Caesar said:
[Consiteritive talk raido just confirms it and fills in the blanks. You still have to have some wisdom to read between some lines--but this country need consertavite talk radio--a lot.]

Conservative talk radio is almost entirely spin. Its the dishonest leading the dimwitted.

Not time for the rest---but do you think our founding fathers were stuppid people? They did build the most prosperous land for the people this world has ever seen, and did so in a very short time. Sure, you libs can say "Times are different now", but human nature will always floursih in the most free type market system. If your grand father is from USA, or your may be even your father--I bet he was able to raise his whole family, and still retire, and pay for the kids college---with no more than a HS education. That sir---for the people---was working--and that is want consertative talk raido is about. That is what this country is about. I was taught in HS that we were all individual, and equal. We reep what we sow. That is what consertative talk raido is, it is what I leanred in public shool years ago, and it is what the founding fathers set up. It is you freaks with anything for a lifestyle, 3 shrinks, prozak dependent, botox stuffed freaks all grown up from the hippy 60's (how did you pricks get so rich)--that want to pervert this country. I am convinced---YOU HATE THE USA!

Why can't I stand NPR? Because every other caller is a crying, bleading heart, homesexual--and the hosts support the behavior of pulling at peoples heart strings to get what they want. "THE CHILDREN--THE CHILDREN". We have had that rammed down our throats by the freaks with agendas for over 50 years--and we still have a crappy education system. The education system is by design. It now breads the dimwitted libs.

THATS RIGHT!!!

Please, you goofy libs give real patriots so much credit for being stupid--while you sell our freedoms, money and soul down the river--so you can feel good about the sociaization you provided for all of us. That you for caring so much about us--so much that all deciently productive people are friggen broke (and dependent on a government)! Jeeech libs---if you minded your own friggen business (or got a job), you would not have time to mind everybody elses.
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Darla said:
Damo, have you noticed how good I've been?

Don't think I haven't been tempted. But I figured I'd give it some time, let them settle in, so I don't chase your newbies away.

It's been hard.
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Your not going to chase me away. I came here to go head to head aginst anybody that hates the USA from within. Put them up--or go down early. I think I can make you cry in three rounds. All libs are whimps and think we all need the protection they desire. I don't live my life in the grey--so I am not confused very easily.
 
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Your not going to chase me away. I came here to go head to head aginst anybody that hates the USA from within. Put them up--or go down early. I think I can make you cry in three rounds. All libs are whimps and think we all need the protection they desire. I don't live my life in the grey--so I am not confused very easily.
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LOL
 
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