Ronald Reagan at 100: The Darker Legacy

[Mott the Hoople]

yes, I'm sure the average citizens of Nicaragua, Panama and Grenada all hate us now that they have free elections....and I expect the Venezuelans are all happier now that they don't have to make complicated decisions like choosing between two different presidential candidates.....

Oh please you nit wit. Don't you guys ever learn? That was another one of W's fuck ups. He tried to overthrow a democratically elected head of state because he didn't like his socialist policies but after W paid the Venezualan military to throw Hugo out via a military coup it backfired on their ass when the Venezuelan people over rode the military and popped him right back in making a great big fool out of W and making an enemy for the US out of the Venezuelan people so, yea, why don't you go down and lay that line of shit down in Venezuela and come back and tell me how that works for you.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

do you deny that the foreign policy you complain of resulted in an increase in democracy and free elections in South and Central America, while the system liberals prefer has resulted in Venezuela?

JESUS CHRIST DUDE! We not only have not promoted democracy in latin America US Foreign policy has undermined it nearly ever chance they got. Have you ever been to the area? Have you ever studied the history of our foreign policy in latin America. I not only deny your claim I'm laughing my ass off that you can be so ignorant of history that you could even make that claim with a straight face. Good god almighty!!

 

[PostmodernProphet]

apparently you've a decidedly partisan spin to your views on Latin America....so be it....

 

[Topspin]

Just cause Dixie married his cousin shouldn't give him the right to compare humans marrying to animals marrying humans. What a fucking knuckle dragging GED. Oh wait he's from bama. What an average cousin marrier.

 

[DamnYankee]

Reagan probably has the highest freedom won / war death ratio of any US president. Maybe that's why libtards hate him.

 

[christiefan915]

Reagan DIDN'T make any mistakes! You are trying to claim he wasn't perfect, and that's not hard to support... I agree, he wasn't PERFECT, no mortal man is! As for presidents, and actual presidential mistakes, Reagan was as close to perfect as it gets. The hyped up bullshit you have drummed up, should be a testament to how pathetic and stupid this argumentative line is. I mean really... his Interior Secretary appointment? That's all you got?

Iran-Contra was about as big a mistake as any president could make. Are you forgetting about the Boland Amendment? Clinton was impeached for far less.

 

[christiefan915]

Sorry Dixie, I like Ronnie a lot, I sincerly did, but despite his many character flaws Clinton has been the best President in my life time. Reagan did not lead this nation to the level of prosperity that Clinton did and Reagan was never really tested by any great crises (though neither was Clinton). The last 4 years of Clintons Presidency were the best years of my life financially and using Reagans standard of "Are you better off now or then." Clinton walks away with that one. I prospered far more under Clinton then I did Reagan. Only 4 US Presidents in my life time had to lead this nation during times of great crisis. Reagan wasn't one of them. They were Johnson Vietnam), Nixon (Vietnam, Watergate), Ford (Nixon's resignation) and Bush II (Sept 11). Three of those Presidents failed badly. Ford was the only one who managed a great national crisis admirably and paid a huge political price for it too. Personally of the Presidents in my life time I find Ford to have been the most admirable from the stand point of personal character. Considering he was a michigan grad.....you have no idea how hard that was for me to say!!

I agree with you about Ford especially, I supported him over Carter. A really decent man.

 

[christiefan915]

A moderate is someone who is characterized by fairly moderate views, and who doesn't display overt allegiance to a party.

I can't read the sentence I just wrote and think "Dixie."

She's a wacko. Her right-wing hackery is right in line with Dixie's.

 

[christiefan915]

you don't consider communism to be a threat?

No.

 

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Oh please you nit wit. Don't you guys ever learn? That was another one of W's fuck ups. He tried to overthrow a democratically elected head of state because he didn't like his socialist policies but after W paid the Venezualan military to throw Hugo out via a military coup it backfired on their ass when the Venezuelan people over rode the military and popped him right back in making a great big fool out of W and making an enemy for the US out of the Venezuelan people so, yea, why don't you go down and lay that line of shit down in Venezuela and come back and tell me how that works for you.

you actually think venezuela is a democracy? you actually think just because someone is "democratically" elected that makes them a democracy type government?

i guess you believe saddam's 99% "democratically" held elections made his government a democracy too....

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

you actually think venezuela is a democracy? you actually think just because someone is "democratically" elected that makes them a democracy type government?

i guess you believe saddam's 99% "democratically" held elections made his government a democracy too....

Here Yurt, let me help you out with understanding how this works, since you seem to be clueless... The pinheads don't see a threat or problem with communist dictatorships or oppression, they never pose a threat to our freedom and democracy. It's all just a great big bogeyman created by neocons, and never something we should fret over. When the pot inevitably boils over, and all hell breaks lose, and we are faced with some massive humanitarian crisis, THEN it becomes a problem "we never saw coming" or "couldn't have predicted."

So, it's real easy to follow the pinhead logic, countries controlled by communist dictators, in bed with the Russians or Islamists, ruling with an iron fist and oppressing their people, are not a threat or problem, and if they become one, we have to act surprised and pretend there was no way to avoid it and nothing could have been done to prevent it. Then we'll be asked to send our checks to the relief efforts, which will be funneled to the next corrupt regime, and the cycle continues.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Yes, I compared one sexually deviant behavior with another. One is socially acceptable and the other is not, that is the only difference. You haven't refuted that, you just act offended by it, but there is no need in being offended by the truth. You can call BS all you like, I didn't say I am okay with 1st trimester abortions under any and all circumstance. I specifically said, I am okay with them as long as we are honest about what we are aborting and people have sufficient counseling. And in either event, I am perfectly okay with the voters of the state deciding what law they wish to establish.

You can call me "far right" all you like, I am used to being called much worse, I don't mind, I just wanted to set the record straight, my viewpoints are FAR from FAR right, they are fairly MODERATE.

dixie please name at least 5 mainstream politicians in this country that are to the right of you.

please also outline some of your moderate social views.

note: life in prison instead of death penalty for smoking weed is not a moderate view

 

[Mott the Hoople]

dixie please name at least 5 mainstream politicians in this country that are to the right of you.

please also outline some of your moderate social views.

note: life in prison instead of death penalty for smoking weed is not a moderate view

Dixie's a moderate. He's moderately insane!

 

[Mott the Hoople]

you actually think venezuela is a democracy? you actually think just because someone is "democratically" elected that makes them a democracy type government?

i guess you believe saddam's 99% "democratically" held elections made his government a democracy too....

Bogus comparisons. International observers, including a former US President, were observers. Hugo was democratically elected and was operating under his nations system of government legally. The fact that the US attempted the over throw (again) of a democratically elected latin American rulers is a stain on the US reputation. Only a fool would disregard the reasons why Latin Americans resent US interventionism and the Monroe Doctrine.

 

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Bogus comparisons. International observers, including a former US President, were observers. Hugo was democratically elected and was operating under his nations system of government legally. The fact that the US attempted the over throw (again) of a democratically elected latin American rulers is a stain on the US reputation. Only a fool would disregard the reasons why Latin Americans resent US interventionism and the Monroe Doctrine.

Yeah, they were duped into electing a dictator

 

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Bogus comparisons. International observers, including a former US President, were observers. Hugo was democratically elected and was operating under his nations system of government legally. The fact that the US attempted the over throw (again) of a democratically elected latin American rulers is a stain on the US reputation. Only a fool would disregard the reasons why Latin Americans resent US interventionism and the Monroe Doctrine.

no, you're the one making comparisons and declaring that just because a leader is elected, it must be a democracy....

you said that....don't dance away from it now

 

[Lowaicue]

Dixie:

You said: 'communist dictators, in bed with the Russians or Islamists, ruling with an iron fist and oppressing their people'

Just to help, because I know you aren't just going to throw ill-thought out statements into the fray, can you name a living communist dictator, someone who is in bed with the russians (as opposed to being in bed with A russian (female) - a pleasant thought!), someone who is 'in bed with the Islamists (should be easier for you) and someone ruling with an iron fist.

When you have time I would be very much obliged to you.

 

[Phantasmal]

JESUS CHRIST DUDE! We not only have not promoted democracy in latin America US Foreign policy has undermined it nearly ever chance they got. Have you ever been to the area? Have you ever studied the history of our foreign policy in latin America. I not only deny your claim I'm laughing my ass off that you can be so ignorant of history that you could even make that claim with a straight face. Good god almighty!!

It was the one thing I didn't like about the Clinton administration, their policies concerning South America. There were definitely human rights violations.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Dixie:

You said: 'communist dictators, in bed with the Russians or Islamists, ruling with an iron fist and oppressing their people'

Just to help, because I know you aren't just going to throw ill-thought out statements into the fray, can you name a living communist dictator, someone who is in bed with the russians (as opposed to being in bed with A russian (female) - a pleasant thought!), someone who is 'in bed with the Islamists (should be easier for you) and someone ruling with an iron fist.

When you have time I would be very much obliged to you.

Castro, Kim Jong Ill, Hugo Chavez... all in bed with Communist Russia.
Ahmadinejad, as well as leaders from several African nations... all in bed with Radical Islam. Iron fisted rulers? Where do you want me to begin, there are dozens of them currently in power.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

dixie answer my question