Ronald Reagan Documentary

As the costs of Vietnam are hardly a reason we saw Carter's stagflation? No, the costs of the Vietnam war were not mentioned.

Nearly every war causes inflation as part of the aftermath, Carter just so happened to be unlucky to inherit it from the Vietnam and Yom Kippur wars.

Roger Bootle, in his book, The Death of Inflation, also traced the historic link between inflation and war in America's 225-year history:
"This country's first two experiences with high inflation were during the American War of Independence (1775-83) and during the Civil War. There was also high inflation associated with the First World War; the unifying theme running through inflation episodes are the occurrence of bad times, often as a result of war or its aftermath."
"After the Second World War, inflation became the norm everywhere in the industrial world. There was another surge of inflation during the Korean War, which took inflation in the U.S. above 9% in 1951 (and wholesale price inflation into double digits)."
"The inflation that accompanied the Vietnam War and the Yom Kippur War, and oil price shocks in the 1970s, led people to increase their inflationary expectations, which aggravated inflation itself."
Similarly, in her book, Money Meltdown, Judy Shelton also traces the relationship between war and inflation from the Civil War through Vietnam:

"'We tried to finance the Vietnam War and the Great Society programs without a tax increase,' admits Charles L. Schultze, Johnson's budget director at the time, 'and clearly that started our course of inflation.'"
"Political leaders always have tended to take the view that in time of war the nation must do whatever is necessary to succeed, and the financial repercussions can be dealt with later. Johnson was only following the pattern that had been adhered to by his predecessors: Lincoln during the Civil War, when inflation in the Union from 1861 to 1865 was 117%; Wilson during World War I, when prices rose from 1917 to 1918 by 126%; and Roosevelt during World War II, when prices rose from 1941 to 1945 by 108%."



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Nearly every war causes inflation as part of the aftermath, Carter just so happened to be unlucky to inherit it from the Vietnam War.

Wrong. Ford did.

When Ford left office, inflation was at 5.2%. Period. That is down from the double digit inflation he saw in 1974.
 
So Dixie....what you're telling me is that the President can't veto legislation? LOL

No, I guess you should read it again, I said the president doesn't write the legislation, and doesn't have the ability to line-item veto things he doesn't like. In order for Reagan to get the things he wanted, he had to accept things he didn't want. Now you are blaming him for passing things he didn't want, the Democrats wanted, and he had to accept to get the things vital to returning us to prosperity. You either don't understand how government and politics work, or you are being intentionally stupid about it. Which one is it?
 
Seriously? You are going to argue about a couple of days? Ok, it was a couple of days prior to the meeting. Wow, you really got me dung. you fucking dishonest little hack.

Just keep posting your little charts and ignoring the ACTUAL data. Good work dishonest little hack.


So, I'm the one ignoring the actual data by quoting the FED and posting a chart of the daily effective federal interest rates for the relevant period. Hilarious.
 
So, I'm the one ignoring the actual data by quoting the FED and posting a chart of the daily effective federal interest rates for the relevant period. Hilarious.

You understand that the FED only changes rates at its meetings yes or no? The changes made by VOLCKER.

The daily reflects what the MARKET is expecting to happen. You do understand this do you not?
 
So, I'm the one ignoring the actual data by quoting the FED and posting a chart of the daily effective federal interest rates for the relevant period. Hilarious.

and yes, you are indeed ignoring the data and my comments on the actual data.

Or are you going to continue to pretend that you missed the comments on where rates where when Volcker took the position?
 
Nearly every war causes inflation as part of the aftermath, Carter just so happened to be unlucky to inherit it from the Vietnam and Yom Kippur wars.

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But inflation was at 5.6% when Carter took office and none of that, or any of the 1970's, supply shocks had ANYTHING to do with inflation that happened after 1976. Nothing what so ever! [/sarcasm]

Can you believe he's actually trying to sell that shit? LOL
 
You understand that the FED only changes rates at its meetings yes or no? The changes made by VOLCKER.

The daily reflects what the MARKET is expecting to happen. You do understand this do you not?


Yes, I do, jackass. That's why I mentioned that the FED adopted a target range of 8-14% at its August meeting. At the October 21 meeting the Fed increased the target range to 9-15%.

You seem to think that Volker didn't do anything following the recession until after the election (or at the October 21 meeting at the earliest). It just isn't so from a Fed policy perspective or looking at the actual effective federal funds rate data.
 
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Wrong. Ford did.

When Ford left office, inflation was at 5.2%. Period. That is down from the double digit inflation he saw in 1974.

Carter chose to tackle the unemployment aspect of stagflation first, which combined with the incessant oil rises exacebated inflation. Oil prices had gone up by a factor of ten from 1973 to 1979, something which you've neglected to mention. Here is the Cliff Notes version.

The economy and the energy crisis. The economy remained the country's main domestic issue. Carter reversed Ford's policy of dealing with the inflation side of stagflation by first attacking high unemployment. Carter found, as his predecessors had, that there was a serious cost for increasing spending on public works to provide jobs — inflation soared. In fact, during his four years in office, inflation doubled in part because of a new round of oil price increases by OPEC and also because using interest rates to moderate the problem was not effective. Interest rates were so high that both new home construction and the sale of older houses dropped sharply.
Even before oil prices went up for the second time in the decade, the United States was in the midst of a major energy crisis. In the spring of 1977, the president submitted a comprehensive package of energy legislation to Congress that included the creation of the Department of Energy, the use of higher taxes and tax incentives to encourage conservation, the development of new sources of oil and natural gas, and the promotion of alternative fuels and nuclear power. Only the Department of Energy was approved; furthermore, an accident at the Three Mile Island nuclear plant in March 1979 discredited nuclear energy in the United States. OPEC price increases in 1979 raised the cost of a barrel of crude to over $30 (compared to $3 dollars in 1973) and resulted in gasoline price hikes to more than a $1 a gallon (as opposed to 40 cents in 1973) and the return of long lines at the gas pumps.

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But inflation was at 5.6% when Carter took office and none of that, or any of the 1970's, supply shocks had ANYTHING to do with inflation that happened after 1976. Nothing what so ever! [/sarcasm]

Can you believe he's actually trying to sell that shit? LOL

AGAIN MORON....

The point that I have continually stated is that you are 100% INCORRECT to say that Carter inherited stagflation. HE DID NOT.

NOW you are trying to spin that into a nice little straw man. I have NEVER, NOT ONCE, stated that events prior to Carter didn't effect his tenure. NOT ONCE have I stated anything close to that.

But you are a fucking moron to continue suggesting he inherited stagflation. He inherited GDP GROWTH, GDP GROWTH that continued until the oil crisis in 79. He inherited inflation at 5.2%.

So again you fucking idiot... HE DID NOT INHERIT STAGFLATION AS YOU CLAIMED. PERIOD.
 
AGAIN MORON....

The point that I have continually stated is that you are 100% INCORRECT to say that Carter inherited stagflation. HE DID NOT.

NOW you are trying to spin that into a nice little straw man. I have NEVER, NOT ONCE, stated that events prior to Carter didn't effect his tenure. NOT ONCE have I stated anything close to that.

But you are a fucking moron to continue suggesting he inherited stagflation. He inherited GDP GROWTH, GDP GROWTH that continued until the oil crisis in 79. He inherited inflation at 5.2%.

So again you fucking idiot... HE DID NOT INHERIT STAGFLATION AS YOU CLAIMED. PERIOD.
LOL sure...keep trying to sell that and drink some more kool aid. LOL
 
Carter chose to tackle the unemployment aspect of stagflation first, which combined with the incessant oil rises caused the inflation. Oil prices had gone up by a factor of ten from 1973 to 1979, something which you've neglected to mention.
http://www.cliffsnotes.com/study_gu...ter.topicArticleId-25238,articleId-25232.html

Seriously? That is how you wish to defend Carter, by pointing out one of his biggest errors? fighting inflation was the top priority. High inflation is the death knell to any economy. 7.5% unemployment was certainly not good nor where anyone wanted it to be. But he should have continued hammering at inflation. It was at 5.2% when he took office in January of 1981. As your 'cliff notes' stated, he reversed Ford's policy of dealing with inflation and what happened?

Inflation rates in 1978 began creeping ever higher, despite a relatively stagnant price of oil (inflation adjusted it actually dropped a couple bucks per barrel, but not enough to make a difference). Add in the energy policy of Carter and the OPEC oil increases in 1979 and you had a recipe for disaster... which is precisely what we got. Double digit inflation and unemployment running back up to 7.5% by the time he left office. So in the end... Carter left with the same unemployment rate as when he took office, yet instead of 5.2% inflation, he left us at a 11.8% rate of inflation.
 
You are always saying the perceived wisdom about the Civil War and its causes are wrong, well we are doing the same with Carter.
No, what I say about the Civil War is that when you look at the facts the perceived notion of many is incorrect. Same with Carter. Look at the facts and sentient beings come to the conclusion that he was the worst president in my lifetime.
 
Moot still on his moronic Carter worship? :palm:
No, I just appreciate the truth and the facts and not some lame assed mythology. BTW.....I voted for Reagan twice. I don't regret voting for him the first time but I regreted voting for him on his second term when he broke the law and lied to the nation about it. He was damned lucky he wasn't impeached for that.
 
You are always saying the perceived wisdom about the Civil War and its causes are wrong, well we are doing the same with Carter.
Aint that the truth but I guess they need to have their mythologies to worship. Some people can't hande a fact driven reality based existence.
 
No, I just appreciate the truth and the facts and not some lame assed mythology. BTW.....I voted for Reagan twice. I don't regret voting for him the first time but I regreted voting for him on his second term when he broke the law and lied to the nation about it. He was damned lucky he wasn't impeached for that.
Since he wasn't impeached apparently he didn't break the law.
 
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