How is Putin acting within national security interests? How is Crimea or the Ukraine a threat to the sovereignty of the Russian Republic? Please don't use the bullshit Putin erupted with; those are lies.
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How is Putin acting within national security interests? How is Crimea or the Ukraine a threat to the sovereignty of the Russian Republic? Please don't use the bullshit Putin erupted with; those are lies.
Another empty headed leftist twit who can't distinguish a poorly concocted cut and paste job.
But again, you think tunnels were never used in time of war in the past right shit-for-brains?
Putin saw that no matter how justified, Republicans were not going to allow Obama to get a military victory.
maineman
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poorly concocted cut and paste job? Really?
Gosh.... here it is VERBATIM in a DoD webpage:
http://www.defense.gov/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=2585
TD= LYING SACK OF SHIT
This coming from a partisan hack of epic proportions; ironic.
Again you miss the point; the relevance of those 16 words are meaningless unless you are a partisan hack stuck on retard.
Dimwitted dunces like you are desperately arguing over an event that has come and gone and that removed a brutal megalomaniac from power. The only purpose of these retarded efforts by the cabal of leftist twits on this and many other forums is to excuse the brutal dictator and incriminate the US and her President of whom morons like you have an irrational hatred for.
Your efforts are to take what was an extremely successful military victory in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and the successful implementation of a representative form of government in an area that has NEVER know it, and turn it into a failure are incredibly misguided and retarded. There is no kind way to describe such efforts.
It's really the pinacle of mental retardation to try to infer a modicum of intelligence from such nakedly hyperartisan efforts.
The idea that you read this report and are not spewing leftist drivel requires the willing suspension of intelligence and credulity.
So what this debate boils down to is what possible purpose could there be to attempt to re-invent the historic facts to argue that AmeriKa was wrong to remove a despicable despot. What possible good can become of such retarded and misguided nakedly partisan stupidity?
If the goal is to make America look weak, inept and bad; congrats. You doubled down on it when you voted for the most inept, clueless, inexperienced,hyper partisan, divisive, dunce to ever sit in the White House on nothing more substantive than "hope and change".
Congrats; we now have little hope and have changed to an even more divided nation. Yay you!
You're nothing more than a bunch of lunatic dimwits stuck on a special brand of stupid to engage in such ignorant nonsense.
Wrong again dumbass; Putin looked into Obamas eyes and saw a feckless naive dunce who would never act. You see, Obama painted himself into that corner with his own dimwitted and naive rhetoric.
Leftist dunces like you were so against American action in Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention desperately wanting to run away from it by electing a dunce as President, and determined in destroying Bush that you now don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to global threats.
In your misguided efforts to destroy a good man of decisiveness, you have told the world that America does not have the spine, the will or desire, to stand behind her commitments and rhetoric, and therefore, cannot be trusted.
You have fulfilled the rhetoric of the Communist Vietnamese regime and Osama Bin Laden who correctly stated that if they kill enough of our people for a long enough time, the American left will deliver them the victories they cannot hope to win on the battlefield.
Who is ever going to take an American President seriously anymore regardless of party?
So thank you hyper partisan dunces for doing what no despot could ever hope to accomplish, weaken and make irrelevant the leaders of the free world. Our enemies are laughing their asses off.
Dear dumbass lying leftist expat living in a Mexican slum; the cut and paste job in the video was the tunnel diagram you effeminate low intelligence moron.
Damn you're one dumb asshole you know that. Do you ever comprehend anything you read other than the Communist manifesto you appear to have memorized??
Run along you whiney effeminate dunce and put me on ignore as you lied about doing in the past. It saves me from having to respond to your glaring ignorance.
christiefan915
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Althea
Althea told me...
He also said that Bush/Britain jumped the gun, as Hussein was now allowing inspections. So thank you. Thank you very much for making my point. If you 'lived thru it', please tell us why Bush claimed we had to invade Iraq in March. I might have already posted the answer in this thread.
Always good to see you!
He never said that you lying dunce.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Stuck on stupid is you. We didn't go to Iraq to remove a brutal megalomaniac from power. How you can leapfrog from "imminent threat" to removing a brutal dictator is a mystery.
"There's no question that Iraq was a threat to the people of the United States."
- White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan, 8/26/03
"We ended the threat from Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction."
- President Bush, 7/17/03
Iraq was "the most dangerous threat of our time."
- White House spokesman Scott McClellan, 7/17/03
"Saddam Hussein is no longer a threat to the United States because we removed him, but he was a threat...He was a threat. He's not a threat now."
- President Bush, 7/2/03
"Absolutely."
- White House spokesman Ari Fleischer answering whether Iraq was an "imminent threat," 5/7/03
"We gave our word that the threat from Iraq would be ended."
- President Bush 4/24/03
"The threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction will be removed."
- Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 3/25/03
"It is only a matter of time before the Iraqi regime is destroyed and its threat to the region and the world is ended."
- Pentagon spokeswoman Victoria Clarke, 3/22/03
"The people of the United States and our friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an outlaw regime that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder."
- President Bush, 3/19/03
"The dictator of Iraq and his weapons of mass destruction are a threat to the security of free nations."
- President Bush, 3/16/03
"This is about imminent threat."
- White House spokesman Scott McClellan, 2/10/03
Iraq is "a serious threat to our country, to our friends and to our allies."
- Vice President Dick Cheney, 1/31/03
Iraq poses "terrible threats to the civilized world."
- Vice President Dick Cheney, 1/30/03
Iraq "threatens the United States of America."
- Vice President Cheney, 1/30/03
"Iraq poses a serious and mounting threat to our country. His regime has the design for a nuclear weapon, was working on several different methods of enriching uranium, and recently was discovered seeking significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
- Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 1/29/03
"Saddam Hussein possesses chemical and biological weapons. Iraq poses a threat to the security of our people and to the stability of the world that is distinct from any other. It's a danger to its neighbors, to the United States, to the Middle East and to the international peace and stability. It's a danger we cannot ignore. Iraq and North Korea are both repressive dictatorships to be sure and both pose threats. But Iraq is unique. In both word and deed, Iraq has demonstrated that it is seeking the means to strike the United States and our friends and allies with weapons of mass destruction."
- Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 1/20/03
"The Iraqi regime is a threat to any American. They not only have weapons of mass destruction, they used weapons of mass destruction...That's why I say Iraq is a threat, a real threat."
- President Bush, 1/3/03
"The world is also uniting to answer the unique and urgent threat posed by Iraq whose dictator has already used weapons of mass destruction to kill thousands."
- President Bush, 11/23/02
"I would look you in the eye and I would say, go back before September 11 and ask yourself this question: Was the attack that took place on September 11 an imminent threat the month before or two months before or three months before or six months before? When did the attack on September 11 become an imminent threat? Now, transport yourself forward a year, two years or a week or a month...So the question is, when is it such an immediate threat that you must do something?"
- Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 11/14/02
"I see a significant threat to the security of the United States in Iraq."
- President Bush, 11/1/02
"There is real threat, in my judgment, a real and dangerous threat to American in Iraq in the form of Saddam Hussein."
- President Bush, 10/28/02
"The Iraqi regime is a serious and growing threat to peace."
- President Bush, 10/16/02
"There are many dangers in the world, the threat from Iraq stands alone because it gathers the most serious dangers of our age in one place. Iraq could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical weapon to a terrorist group or individual terrorists."
- President Bush, 10/7/02
"The Iraqi regime is a threat of unique urgency."
- President Bush, 10/2/02
"There's a grave threat in Iraq. There just is."
- President Bush, 10/2/02
...and there's more where these came from.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/01/29/13091/-Bush-s-quot-imminent-threat-quot#
maineman
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did you not READ the transcript?????
Russert: The Times of London did a graphic, which I want to put on the screen for you and our viewers. This is it. This is a fortress. This is a very much a complex, multi-tiered, bedrooms and offices on the top, as you can see, secret exits on the side and on the bottom, cut deep to avoid thermal detection so when our planes fly to try to determine if any human beings are in there, it's built so deeply down and embedded in the mountain and the rock it's hard to detect. And over here, valleys guarded, as you can see, by some Taliban soldiers. A ventilation system to allow people to breathe and to carry on. An arms and ammunition depot. And you can see here the exits leading into it and the entrances large enough to drive trucks and cars and even tanks. And it's own hydroelectric power to help keep lights on, even computer systems and telephone systems. It's a very sophisticated operation.
Rumsfeld: Oh, you bet. This is serious business. And there's not one of those. There are many of those. And they have been used very effectively.
As Russert describes the diagram, it is highlighted right along with his words.... it is as it was shown. Rummy saw it as it was shown... and commented on it.
You are a liar and a fool...and I take guilty pleasure in rubbing your nose in your own bullshit.
Dear morons; the graphic is cartoonish and an attempt to impugn a dignified discussion. But again, historic dunces think that caves have never been used in the past or by the Taliban; that's how painfully stupid you morons are.
maineman
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the diagram is the exact diagram that Rummy was shown by Tim Russert. Russert describes it in great detail:
"This is a fortress. This is a very much a complex, multi-tiered, bedrooms and offices on the top, as you can see, secret exits on the side and on the bottom, cut deep to avoid thermal detection so when our planes fly to try to determine if any human beings are in there, it's built so deeply down and embedded in the mountain and the rock it's hard to detect. And over here, valleys guarded, as you can see, by some Taliban soldiers. A ventilation system to allow people to breathe and to carry on. An arms and ammunition depot. And you can see here the exits leading into it and the entrances large enough to drive trucks and cars and even tanks. And it's own hydroelectric power to help keep lights on, even computer systems and telephone systems. It's a very sophisticated operation."
As he describes it, the things he is describing are highlighted on the diagram. There is no amateurish cut and pasting going on here... that is exactly how the interview transpired.
You are a liar and you don't even have the maturity to admit you made a mistake.
pathetic fuck.
Another ignorant hyper partisan hack who has never read the Joint Resolution on Iraq; yay you!
Shall I post, again, what Democrats said about WMDs? Apparently you can't wrap your empty hyper partisan hack closed mind around it to remember what EVERYONE said.
christiefan915
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Don't feel guilty. People like TD aren't worthy of it.
Crashk
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11/14/2002, Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
"I'm glad you asked. It has nothing to do with oil, literally nothing to do with oil."
9/9/2008, Alan Greenspan, Chairman of the Federal Reserve through 2005. (from The Age of Turbulence, p.463)
"I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil."
http://zfacts.com/iraq-war-quotes
No wonder Truth Deflector is confused.
Please show proof of WMDs in caves, or anything else that had to do with caves in the Iraq War.
"I'm glad you asked. It has nothing to do with oil, literally nothing to do with oil."
9/9/2008, Alan Greenspan, Chairman of the Federal Reserve through 2005. (from The Age of Turbulence, p.463)
"I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil."
http://zfacts.com/iraq-war-quotes
No wonder Truth Deflector is confused.
Please show proof of WMDs in caves, or anything else that had to do with caves in the Iraq War.
christiefan915
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Yes dear I read the Joint Resolution numerous times. Did you read the Senate Committee on Intelligence report I linked just for you? Here it is again.
http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/108301.pdf
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