Russia unveils new 'Checkmate' fighter jet

[dukkha]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/20/europe/russia-checkmate-fighter-jet-unveiling-intl/index.html

Russian President Vladimir Putin got a sneak peek of a new fifth-generation lightweight single-engine fighter jet at an air show just outside of Moscow on Tuesday

A UAC press release said the fighter jet "combines innovative solutions and technologies" and has "low visibility and high flight performance."

The company's head, Slyusar, also touted the aircraft's features on Russian state TV, describing the planes as "unique in their class" and adding that they have "a combat radius of 1,500 kilometers, the largest thrust-to-weight ratio, shortened takeoff and landing, more than seven tons of combat load, which is an absolute record for aircraft of this class."
Its first flight is expected in 2023, Russian state media reported, citing a presentation shown to the Russian President.

UAC also expects deliveries of the new single-engine fighter to begin in 2026.
Earlier in the day, Putin lauded Russia's aviation industry in a speech at the air show's opening.
"What we see today in Zhukovsky clearly shows that Russian aviation has great potential for development, and our aircraft industry continues to create new competitive aircraft," he said.

Dmitry Stefanovich, research fellow at the Center for International Security, Primakov Institute of World Economy and International Relations (IMEMO RAS) in Moscow, told CNN the focus of the Sukhoi fighter jet is likely to be on export and military-technical cooperation with other countries.
"This is a game-changing offer on the market," Stefanovich said. "It's been a long time since Russia demonstrated single-engine fighters. For a very long time, there haven't been any new Russian light combat aircraft on the market. And no fifth generation as such."
Countries such as UAE, Argentina, Vietnam and India may be the first to be lining up to sign contracts with Russia for the new jet, according to Stefanovich.

On Monday, Russia's Defense Ministry announced that it had tested its Tsirkon hypersonic missile from the frigate Admiral Grigorovich in the White Sea, hitting a land target on the Barents Sea more than 200 miles away.
"This is hardly a coincidence," Stefanovich said. "Russia demonstrates in practice that it remains a very serious force in the development and production of advanced missile systems."

 

[dukkha]

the F-35 (US/NATO) is also 5th generation

https://theconversation.com/the-f-35-jsf-what-is-a-fifth-generation-fighter-aircraft-26088
Fifth-generation fighters combine new developments such as thrust vectoring, composite materials, supercruise (the ability to cruise at supersonic speeds without using engine afterburners), stealth technology, advanced radar and sensors, and integrated avionics to greatly improve pilot situational awareness.

 

[dukkha]

Zircon (“Tsirkon”) is known in Russia as 3M22 and to NATO as the SS-N-33. While Russia said the latest launch reached Mach 7, other sources say the missile might actually have a top speed of Mach 9, or 6,905 mph.

 

[Dirt McGirt]

There’s gotta be a Yakov Smirnoff joke in there somewhere.

 

[dukkha]

So now Russia has it's own F-35 equivalent -the devil is in the details of course but this is single engine
,lightweight and looks more maneuverable. and of course it's stealth..other then that I cant compare
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the hypersonic is also nuke capable, although the ability to evade western SAM (claim) makes it unstoppable.
I dont know what we have equivalent, if anything

 

[Cypress]

I think the stealth aircraft technology are ugly.

The most beautiful and aesthetically pleasing jet fighters ever built were the older, pre-stealth Sukhoi and the American F-15 Eagle.

 

[dukkha]

I think the stealth aircraft technology are ugly.

The most beautiful and aesthetically pleasing jet fighters ever built were the older, pre-stealth Sukhoi and the American F-15 Eagle.

form is function. you can say the same about our stealth navy.
But if you look at it from a function p.o.v, you learn to love the design capabilities
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the bad part is Cold War 2.0 continues unabated with neither side even talking about de-escalation

 

[dukkha]

video shows Zircon launching from Admiral Gorshkov’s missile silos. After launch, nose-mounted rockets correct the missile’s pitch, from a 90-degree angle to a 70-degree angle in the direction of the target, and then burn out and fall into the sea. The missile climbs for altitude, where the air is thinner and there’s less heat-inducing friction, before presumably diving down onto its target.

Zircon is a tactical weapon, designed to be carried by frigates of the Russian Navy as well as submarines. The missile reportedly has a maximum range of 1,000 kilometers, or 621 miles. One prime target for Zircon is a NATO aircraft carrier, and the missile’s hypersonic speed leaves little time for enemy air defenses to knock it down.

The missile may also be nuclear-capable, meaning just one would need to successfully thread its way through enemy defenses to put a carrier out of action.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/mi.../watch-russia-test-hypersonic-zircon-missile/

 

[Hawkeye10]

So now Russia has it's own F-35 equivalent -the devil is in the details of course but this is single engine
,lightweight and looks more maneuverable. and of course it's stealth..other then that I cant compare
~~

the hypersonic is also nuke capable, although the ability to evade western SAM (claim) makes it unstoppable.
I dont know what we have equivalent, if anything

Not only will the Chinese and the Russians swamp us with numbers of copies of weapons systems, but also a great many of then will be good quality. I note that the so-called experts keep getting surprised by what the Russians and the Chinese can do, the latest example is how fast they are building an aircraft carrier.

The reason we keep being ‘surprised’ by developments such as J-35 and these new carriers is the complete lack of transparency from the Chinese side – despite the long-running emphasis by the US on military-to-military engagements with Beijing that is supposed to create just that,” said Fanell. “It is a near one-way street, as we receive almost no openness in return for the insight we are providing the PLAN. It’s well past time to re-evaluate this practice of unaccountable arrangement.”

https://breakingdefense.com/2021/07/chinas-j-35-carrier-fighter-appears-step-to-most-powerful-navy/

It must be noted that our intel agencies fail to accomplish the mission with China...the Chinese have our number.

 

[reagansghost]

I think the stealth aircraft technology are ugly.

The most beautiful and aesthetically pleasing jet fighters ever built were the older, pre-stealth Sukhoi and the American F-15 Eagle.

the only cool thing GWB did his whole life was fly a F-102, an clunker from back in the 50's but looks clean

 

[dukkha]

Not only will the Chinese and the Russians swamp us with numbers of copies of weapons systems, but also a great many of then will be good quality. I note that the so-called experts keep getting surprised by what the Russians and the Chinese can do, the latest example is how fast they are building an aircraft carrier.


https://breakingdefense.com/2021/07/chinas-j-35-carrier-fighter-appears-step-to-most-powerful-navy/

It must be noted that our intel agencies fail to accomplish the mission with China...the Chinese have our number.

bingo. exactly. they dont just have to steal ours anymore -China and Russia are cooperating on R&D as well.
Since Crimea annexation I have been SCREAMING we need to separate Russia from China,
but instead we bull-headed sent weapons to Ukraine and continued sanctions on Russia.

This is 100% opposite of how Nixon (Nixon 's China card) successfully kept China and Russia at bey for decades.
and our INTEL agencies are too busy reading Tucker Carlsons Emails, or purging "white supreamecist" to bother with the true existential threat of a strategic Russian/China partnership

 

[Hawkeye10]

bingo. exactly. they dont just have to steal ours anymore -China and Russia are cooperating on R&D as well.
Since Crimea annexation I have been SCREAMING we need to separate Russia from China,
but instead we bull-headed sent weapons to Ukraine and continued sanctions on Russia.

This is 100% opposite of how Nixon (Nixon 's China card) successfully kept China and Russia at bey for decades.
and our INTEL agencies are too busy reading Tucker Carlsons Emails, or purging "white supreamecist" to bother with the true existential threat of a strategic Russian/China partnership

You will find this interesting:

To summarize, the Type-003 is slightly smaller in overall dimensions. It has fewer catapults and fewer aircraft elevators, which may reduce sortie rates. In general the American ship is a bold evolutionary leap based on decades of operational experience. The Chinese ship on the other hand is a much more conservative step forward from the less experienced carrier operator. There’s no denying that in overall terms the Type-003 is going to be a very large carrier which should be extremely potent. But it may be held back slightly by some design choices which are routed in Soviet thinking.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-new...r-how-it-compares-to-the-us-navys-ford-class/

 

[Cypress]

the only cool thing GWB did his whole life was fly a F-102, an clunker from back in the 50's but looks clean

The 102 was pretty cool, but from the old school jet fighters, I thought the F-4 Phantom was a beauty.

 

[dukkha]

You will find this interesting:


https://www.navalnews.com/naval-new...r-how-it-compares-to-the-us-navys-ford-class/

There’s no denying that in overall terms the Type-003 is going to be a very large carrier which should be extremely potent. But it may be held back slightly by some design choices which are routed in Soviet thinking.

well we are the worlds leader in carriers, and our Ford is a "leap".
But China is making a decent facsimile - and they have the money to burn on R&D/production

 

[T. A. Gardner]

the only cool thing GWB did his whole life was fly a F-102, an clunker from back in the 50's but looks clean

Clunker? No. The F-102 when it came out was one of the most advanced and complex interceptors built to that point. It had a Hughes Mg-3 automatic intercept system and linked to the USAF's SAGE system. For the time it was a major advance on the state of the art. By Bush's time, the fire controls were the MG-10, and included one of the first digital data links between the aircraft and ground controllers.
It also had one of the highest cockpit workloads of any single seat fighter at the time.

The F-102 and it's replacement the F-106 were designed for one mission: Shoot down enemy (Russian) nuclear armed bombers.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

well we are the worlds leader in carriers, and our Ford is a "leap".
But China is making a decent facsimile - and they have the money to burn on R&D/production

Given the quality problems they have with much of the stuff they make, it is yet to be seen how well their first CATOBAR carrier (eg., one like the US builds) will do at sea. I suspect there will be a very steep, expensive, and difficult learning curve with it.

 

[Hawkeye10]

well we are the worlds leader in carriers, and our Ford is a "leap".
But China is making a decent facsimile - and they have the money to burn on R&D/production

When Petraeus said maybe three years ago that sure the Chinese are building good stuff and that they will build a lot of it, but that it will take them 20 years to learn how to use it I said that he is wrong, because I knew back then that a lot of the Soviet/Russian knowledge was flowing to the Chinese. The "Experts" said no way, the Russians and the Chinese hate each other.

Hopefully they are finally learning.

 

[dukkha]

When Petraeus said maybe three years ago that sure the Chinese are building good stuff and that they will build a lot of it, but that it will take them 20 years to learn how to use it I said that he is wrong, because I knew back then that a lot of the Soviet/Russian knowledge was flowing to the Chinese. The "Experts" said no way, the Russians and the Chinese hate each other.

Hopefully they are finally learning.

prescient of you - me as well.
It starts as a transactional partnership, but cutting Russia out of western banking markets literally
forced Putin to join Xi.
More then a marriage of convenience now -it's an unstated strategic alliance that has even fielded unified command at war games. Putin has warned he might formalize it - we leave him no other wiggle room - including insane running into restricted Crimean waters

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Russia unveils new 'Checkmate' fighter jet

So, will it be a hanger "queen?"

 

[dukkha]

Given the quality problems they have with much of the stuff they make, it is yet to be seen how well their first CATOBAR carrier (eg., one like the US builds) will do at sea. I suspect there will be a very steep, expensive, and difficult learning curve with it.

China’s Third Aircraft Carrier Takes ShapeJune 15, 2021
https://www.csis.org/analysis/chinas-third-aircraft-carrier-takes-shape
In addition to being larger than its predecessors, the Type 003 is widely expected to feature a flat-top flight deck with a “catapult assisted takeoff but arrested recovery” (CATOBAR) system. This would mark a major upgrade from the less advanced ski jump-style system used on the Liaoning and Shandong.
The use of catapults will enable the Type 003 to launch fixed-wing aircraft with heavier payloads and more fuel, as well as larger aircraft that have a lower thrust-to-weight ratio.

Most CATOBAR systems are steam-driven, but this is starting to change. The U.S. Navy’s new Gerald R. Ford-class of carriers employs an electromagnetic aircraft launch system (EMALS) that enables faster takeoffs, reduced maintenance, and increased energy efficiency. Rumors suggest that China intends to leapfrog past steam catapults by outfitting the Type 003 with an EMALS-style system.
The decision on what type of catapult the Type 003 would employ was likely made years ago; and while the use of an EMALS-type system remains unconfirmed, altering course would bring significant challenges and delays.

The increased size of the Type 003 paired with an improved launch system opens the door to a larger and more diverse carrier airwing.