Russian armor closes in on ' fortress ' Kyiv.

Stone said:
Did the Russians call for peace talks and agreements BEFORE the war? Sure id. Did the US broker any legit peace talks in the hopes of [preventing war? Nope.. Money Laundering.....going back to the O administration. Lie more LIARS. Thats what Liars do....
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“PARIS, Sept 14 (Reuters) - Vladimir Putin's chief envoy on Ukraine told the Russian leader as the war began that he had struck a provisional deal with Kyiv that would satisfy Russia's demand that Ukraine stay out of NATO, but Putin rejected it and pressed ahead with his military campaign, according to three people close to the Russian leadership.”
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...eace-deal-recommended-by-his-aide-2022-09-14/

Putin didn’t want peace.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/vladimir-putin-does-not-want-peace-with-ukraine/

 
Stone said:
Am I a Ukrainian you dumb fuck? If I were it would be different. And Im not talking about Ukrainians either. Im talking about politicized American idiots cheering on war in an attempt to possibly help their own political party. Sick fucks.
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So why don't Ukrainians have the same right of self defense you supposedly claim for yourself?

You have been watching too much Kremlin propoganda if you think any liberal wanted or asked for this war to happen.

This war was strictly caused by your demigod Vlad Putin
 
Stone said:
Im talking about politicized American idiots cheering on war in an attempt to possibly help their own political party. Sick fucks.
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You were the first one out of the gate on February 27
with the hyperpartisan posts trying to paint Russia's war on Ukraine as an utter failure of the Democratic party.

Stone said:
Biden's Utter Failure in Ukraine

Meanwhile Putin can negotiate from a position of strength because he has what he wants now. He is in Ukraine now and controls its fate totally. If he chooses to he can grind it into the dust if he wants to,...He can do whatever he wants.

A smarter administration would have brokered a deal well ahead of time that would have been tolerable to all parties involved. But no,.....insteadYou never NEVER negotiate from a position of weakness,...not unless you want to get totally rolled like a fool. But we get this total humiliation brought on by a bunch of fucking dummies running DC. Now live with. Nothing we can do now,... too late.
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You didn't even try to place legal, moral, and political blame on Putin.

Meanwhile, while you were trying to make this a partisan issue , support for Ukraine in the United States congress has been overwhelming bipartisan.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Collapse Of FTX Exposes Democrat Party Money Laundering Operation Using Ukraine Aid
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The collapse of the FTX cryptocurrency exchange has revealed a Democrat party money laundering pipeline using FTX to funnel Ukraine financial aid back to to them in order to fund their midterm elections.



It turns out that the tens of billions of dollars going to Ukraine were actually laundered back to the US to corrupt Democrats and elites using FTX cryptocurrency.

https://newspunch.com/collapse-of-f...money-laundering-operation-using-ukraine-aid/
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Ukraine has been a money laundering scam going back to the Days Obama and Joe. Its no coincidence that Joes fuckhead son was given a no show job at UKRAINE BASED Burisma bank. Those Khazars are some slippery MO FO's. :)
 
Cypress said:
So why don't Ukrainians have the same right of self defense you supposedly claim for yourself?

You have been watching too much Kremlin propoganda if you think any liberal wanted or asked for this war to happen.

This war was strictly caused by your demigod Vlad Putin
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The Ukrainians have every right to defend themselves as they see fit. Down to the last Ukrainian if they want,...which most likely will be the case in the end. Brave? Determined? Yes, absolutely. But when every one is dead and most of the country's infrastructure is destroyed there will be no one left to cheer . Oh well,...I guess Joes Brother Jim will get another enormous rebuild contract out of the deal so I guess theres THAT. :|
 
Phantasmal said:
“PARIS, Sept 14 (Reuters) - Vladimir Putin's chief envoy on Ukraine told the Russian leader as the war began that he had struck a provisional deal with Kyiv that would satisfy Russia's demand that Ukraine stay out of NATO, but Putin rejected it and pressed ahead with his military campaign, according to three people close to the Russian leadership.”
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...eace-deal-recommended-by-his-aide-2022-09-14/

Putin didn’t want peace.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/vladimir-putin-does-not-want-peace-with-ukraine/
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So the whole UNNAMED SOURCES bullshit story AGAIN. Got it....:rolleyes:
 
Stone said:
The Ukrainians have every right to defend themselves as they see fit. Down to the last Ukrainian if they want,...which most likely will be the case in the end. Brave? Determined? Yes, absolutely. But when every one is dead and most of the country's infrastructure is destroyed there will be no one left to cheer . Oh well,...I guess Joes Brother Jim will get another enormous rebuild contract out of the deal so I guess theres THAT. :|
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So stop screaming that Biden should force Ukraine to submit, surrender, or negotiate away their sovereign territory.

Leave it up to the Ukrainians to decide. No one is forcing them to fight. People in this part of the world have a thousand year history of fighting tenaciously to defend their home turf.
 
Stone said:
So the whole UNNAMED SOURCES bullshit story AGAIN. Got it....:rolleyes:
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Why do you care?

Nobody takes you seriously anyway.

Stone said:
Beginning to think that Zelenko has been working for the Russians all along. Soon the Ukrainian Army will be all but destroyed and instead of Russia maybe just gaining Donbas they will now have the whole of Ukraine along with all their oil. Libtard cheerleaders yelling out "YOU CAN DOOOOOOOOOO IT" didnt help either. They cant do it without NATO and never could. All you have accomplished is getting a whole lot of Ukrainians killed needlessly and making Russia a whole lot bigger. Sure the Russian economy is in ashes,...but with China's help they will recover,...everyone always does. The Chinese Russian territory and alliance is about to get a whole lot bigger and gain a bunch more resources. Great job dumb asses,.......you been played. What a shame.
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:laugh:
 
Cypress said:
So stop screaming that Biden should force Ukraine to submit, surrender, or negotiate away their sovereign territory.

Leave it up to the Ukrainians to decide. No one is forcing them to fight. People in this part of the world have a thousand year history of fighting tenaciously to defend their home turf.
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Thats perfectly fine. Why do WE have to pay for it though? They need to pay for the war themselves or find some other saps to pay. We have already payed MORE than our fair share. Time for somebody else to pay.
 
Stone said:
Thats perfectly fine. Why do WE have to pay for it though? They need to pay for the war themselves or find some other saps to pay. We have already payed MORE than our fair share. Time for somebody else to pay.
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They will lose if we did not help them. There are several countries doing the same. Russia wants us to die. We are smart to help those who stand for similar values that we have.
We have paid more than our fair share? Why, because you think that? They are fighting to stay sovereign. They are making Putin weaker. they are essentially fighting for us and Europe.
 
Stone said:
Beginning to think that Zelenko has been working for the Russians all along. Soon the Ukrainian Army will be all but destroyed and instead of Russia maybe just gaining Donbas they will now have the whole of Ukraine along with all their oil. Libtard cheerleaders yelling out "YOU CAN DOOOOOOOOOO IT" didnt help either. They cant do it without NATO and never could. All you have accomplished is getting a whole lot of Ukrainians killed needlessly and making Russia a whole lot bigger. Sure the Russian economy is in ashes,...but with China's help they will recover,...everyone always does. The Chinese Russian territory and alliance is about to get a whole lot bigger and gain a bunch more resources. Great job dumb asses,.......you been played. What a shame.
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Ha - Ha, I never noticed how often you are totally wrong!
 
Stone said:
Thats perfectly fine. Why do WE have to pay for it though? They need to pay for the war themselves or find some other saps to pay. We have already payed MORE than our fair share. Time for somebody else to pay.
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The EU and NATO are providing Ukraine substantial amounts of economic and military assistance.

I have never seen NATO so united in my adult life.

We are not going to live in a world where powerful nations can take territory from their neighbors by military force. That makes it the business of the United States.
 
moon said:
You missed out on Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq then- all illegal.
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Afghanistan was legal on the basis of intentional law's recognition of self defense. The people who attacked us were in Afghanistan.

Kosovo was a humanitarian mission to help Muslims who had been victims of ethnic cleansing, but I always knew you didn't actually support Muslims.

We dealt with the Iraq fiasco internally by electing the anti-Iraw war candidate Barack Obama, and by shaming war supporters into silence. Trump had to pretend he was against the Iraq War and conservatives on JPP are totally reticent to even admit they supported the Iraq war
 
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