The fact that it is literally too painful for you to admit the Russian army was decisively defeated at Kyiv and had to retreat tells me all I need to know about your pro-Kremlin imperialism agenda.
Russian armor closes in on ' fortress ' Kyiv.
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The fact that it is literally too painful for you to admit the Russian army was decisively defeated at Kyiv and had to retreat tells me all I need to know about your pro-Kremlin imperialism agenda.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Again, dunderhead-
'You'll see that the opening post contains two words.
Utterly senseless.'
Quite clearly , your attempt to recycle some semblance of Zelensky glory in the face of his current situation has led to this latest display of pseudo-patriotic stupidity.
You are, as is now evident, a wanker.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Up yours, Kaffer-Kicker, with a short fuse.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
The entire world will see in the end that good, righteous, honest people will prevail over violent, hateful dishonest people like you, Dookie and all other haters.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Says the avid racist supporter of the Jewsih fascists of Israel.
You're a joke, fella. Go find a a sleazebag to shoot up with.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
I support all free nations, Ms. Moon. If they support human rights and aim to better themselves, I'm good with it.
As I've posted several times before, when Israel does something wrong, like shooting the reporter last week, then I expect them to do the right thing. Not sweep it under the rug as authoritarian shitbags like you would do.
I highly doubt the Russian Army was 'decisively defeated at Kyiv and forced to retreat'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo...2022_Russian_Invasion_of_Ukraine_animated.gif
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War
As the above animated gif of the war so far shows - the Russians were not pushed back from retreat.
They left - completely voluntarily.
They even announced they were going to leave Kiev and all northern areas a few days before they pulled out.
Also, there is no way that Ukraine could force Russian forces to retreat that fast and yet not be able to budge them almost anywhere else.
That makes ZERO sense.
CLEARLY, Russia voluntarily gave up ALL of their northern gains.
But why?
I assume because they were hoping to either divert Ukrainian troops from the Donbas...which was their obvious target from the beginning.
And/or they were trying to 'scare' Zelenskyy into leaving/resigning.
The former did not seem to work and the latter obviously did not work.
Frankly, I think the entire advance north and north west of the Donbass by the Russians made little sense.
It gained nothing.
And makes them look weaker and gives the West resolve.
But then?
I do not understand Russia's tactics in this war anyway.
I get why they are trying to take the Donbas.
Their people voted over 85% to leave Ukraine back in 2014.
But all the other advances seem wasteful and costly.
Finally, I said in several posts before the war that Russia would not be able to defeat Ukraine easily.
But I thought they would have more success than what they have had since the first couple of weeks.
Could we/the West have been overestimating, Russia's military capabilities all these years?
Or is Russia not really trying as hard as they can?
Perhaps it is a bit of both.
I highly doubted it would happen... But when it happened, I believed it happened.
Kyiv is less than 100 miles from the Belarus border. Russian troops were stationed at that border, so they were within a 100 miles of the capital. They were expected to capture the capital within 24 hours, and the rest of Ukraine within 72 hours. They pressed in from three sides, planning to cut Kyiv off from the world. At first they pushed ahead quickly, but then they slowed down. Finally, they stopped in the suburbs of Kyiv. They never connected up, cutting off Kyiv. Then slowly they were pushed back. Now Putin has given up even trying to capture Kyiv, even though that was supposed to be easy.
Maybe Putin was only using his pathetic loss as a diversion. He would make himself look like a loser, and we would not realize what a great army he really had. More likely, he is a loser, with a far more pathetic army than any of us realized.
If the American army had been stopped at the gates of Baghdad, it's forces and armoured columns decimated by the Iraqis, and then compelled to withdraw back to Kuwait to recalibrate and refocus efforts on trying to capture northern Iraq, would you have considered that a decisive battlefield win for the Iraqis??
Yep, that's right. You would have. You would have considered it a massive defeat for the Americans.
And it wouldn't even be open to debate.
Six months ago you were predicting the Ukranian army was on the verge of utter destruction and Russia would likely conquer and occupy all of Ukraine.
The fact is a second rate European nation has fought a world military superpower to a standstill, and there is virtually no chance Putin will conquer all or even most of Ukraine
moon
Satire for Sanity
According to the Western propaganda.
Taxpayers aren't going to support billions upon billions of their dollars being pumped into a war they're going to lose, are they.
Remember how angry they were when they found out that they'd been paying for a war in Vietnam that the US government had long-since realized was unwinnable ? Yeah.
Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice- no, I don't think so.
There's no comparison between Vietnam war and Ukraine.
You're not American so you get no say in which allies America chooses to support.
If your country is ever invaded by a powerful neighbor you can choose to get on your knees to surrender and submit. Not everyone is reticent to defend themselves like you are
moon
Satire for Sanity
Not in your head, no.
Nationality is not a passport to stupidity- and I'm an internationalist.
There's a time for self-defense and a time for capitulation. Much depends upon the power and nature of the aggressor.
So you advocate that the Palestinians passively submit to the will of the militarily much stronger Israelis.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Get real. The Palestinians have been fighting a resistance war of harassment for decades. There IS no Palestinian military, fool.
As it turns out, Ukraine pushed back the Russian invaders from Kyiv.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Translation: Palestinian terrorists have been murdering innocent men, women and children for decades.
No shit, Ms. Moon. When do you plan to strap on a suicide vest and blow up a London bus?
moon
Satire for Sanity
Translation: Palestinian terrorists have been murdering innocent men, women and children for decades.
No shit, Ms. Moon. When do you plan to strap on a suicide vest and blow up a London bus?
Your pathetic canards fool nobody, you racist prick.
I repeat- The Palestinians have been fighting a resistance war of harassment for decades. There IS no Palestinian military, fool.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Sweetie, you can claim those are fake pictures and that Palestinians are only peaceful protestors, but over 50 years of Palestinian terrorism make you look ignorant if not insane.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Your pics of Iranians and Halloween stills endorse your foolishness, you perverted racist prick.
Haw, haw..............................haw.
The Zionist fascists are the terrorists. They murder civilians every week- and have done since 1947.
They even use Palestinian kids as human shields
They even murder Americans- with impunity, while you take upskirt-pics.
Haw, haw.....................................haw.
Haw, haw..............................haw.
The Zionist fascists are the terrorists. They murder civilians every week- and have done since 1947.
They even use Palestinian kids as human shields
They even murder Americans- with impunity, while you take upskirt-pics.
Haw, haw.....................................haw.
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